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Ski wants to be Primary Point Guard this year - Tad says, maybe

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  1. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    http://www.buffzone.com/buffzonetop...ell-blog-finding-backcourt-combo-key-cu-buffs

    Sort of sounds like Ski would have to stop being ski to win the role. Still, he certainly showed flashes of it last year, and if there is one thing I don't want, it's Ski to lose the killer instinct...
     
  2. sackman

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    Ski probably feels like his best chance at the next level is to play PG. He's probably right about that.
     
  3. rolandftw

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    Not really a fan of it. Don't think he is the distributor the team needs at the PG position. Also, in the long run playing Dom or Jaron at PG has more long-term dividends
     
  4. Buffnik

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    Thinking about Dom I can look back at Spencer and say he benefited from having less on his shoulders as a true frosh with Nate bringing the ball up.
     
  5. SECOBuffsFan

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    I think it is a great idea....put Fletcher or Hopkins at the 2 and let Dom come off the bench as a freshman which will make the 2nd unit a whole lot better with a PG

    I won't like it if they put Little X at the 2
     
  6. Medford M.

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    Amen.

    I like Ski at point because he has been the best passer on the team since he got here. He just doesn't make great decisions.
     
  7. OUBuff

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    Personally I prefer great decisions from an average passer than great passes from an average decision maker. A great decision maker will know when not to throw the pass he doesn't have the ability to make.
     
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    Skia hasn't even been avg as a decision maker though.
     
  9. sackman

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    :lol:

    So you're ok with your point guard making bad decisions?


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  10. Yung Buffalo

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    I'm not sure we have much of another choice. XT and Dom will be the only true points on the team next year. I don't see little X getting many starts. Dom will likely play more as the season progresses. So to start the season, I see Ski at the point with J Hop at the 2 as the most logical option.


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  11. aik

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    I value a sound decision maker in the PG role, who is also a plus defender. Whichever guard on the current roster can best bring that skill set should start from the opener unless or until someone plays so well Tad can't say no to putting him at the position.
     
  12. buffaholic

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    Collier has a lot of experience. I expect him to play a lot and early.
     
  13. tante

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    Are you thinking Collier at the and ski at the 2? Collier better be a great defender for that to happen.
     
  14. jgisland

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    Until CU actually has ball movement and people moving on the offensive end I want a creator playing PG - how many times last year (before he went down) did Dinwiddie have to bail CU out by either taking a not great shot near the end of the clock or take a guy off the dribble to get off a shot?.......A lot - Playing PG is tough for freshman, it took Talton 1 1/2 years to look semi-competent, Hopkins struggled last year, Dinwiddie hardly even played PG his freshman year and Tad's "system" doesn't exactly set PG's up for success. Collier will struggle (anybody would) if guys are standing around on the offensive end. Ski as much as he get killed for it, is a creator. At times he's going to be what CU needs at the point.
     
  15. Jeremy

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    I really think that XT is a short 2. He has no handle, not a lot of speed and isn't a great passer. if he is our primary PG next year, we got issues.
     
  16. Yung Buffalo

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    That's a very harsh assessment of a player who started 13 games at point guard as a sophomore in the Pac 12.
     
  17. Jeremy

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    you're right, was a bit harsh. i actually like XT and thought he progressed as a player a lot, but watching those games, it felt like Ski was running the point whenever they were both on the court. we seemed to struggle when Talton was running the offense and handling the rock.
     
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    I can agree with that. I think Ski is a better fit at the point.
     
  19. SECOBuffsFan

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    Would like to see Tad use his bigs like Self does at Kansas....hard rolls to the basket off picks...hi/lo action...easy baskets and occasionally hit the 15 foot pop when that is the read
     
  20. BuffG

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    Yes. There's no really no question who will start the season as the main PG and that's Ski for this reason and because the heir apparent is a skinny freshman. Like Tad said, it's about being multiple and unless you have a lynchpin PG like Spence, it's going to be PG by committee. There were games last yr where the off-ball movement and passing were really good, but it's probably our biggest weakness and has been exposed in March two yrs in a row.
     
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    Maybe to begin the season. But I'll be disappointed, no pun intended, if Dom isn't a starter by the time the PAC rolls around.
     
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    What does "started 13 games at point guard as a sophomore in the Pac 12" have to do with how good the player is, particularly when they were only starting in to fill in for an injured player on a team without a ton of guard depth? Player flaws don't magically disappear as they gain experience. If a player gets some starts when he's young and he's not very good (I'm not arguing that this is the case here) it's far from unlikely that he remains not very good if he continues to get starts later on.
     
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    My point mainly was that a player who's not fast, has no handle and isn't a good passer isn't going to get a scholarship from a Pac 12 tournament team, much less be trusted to contribute (starting 13 games) as a sophomore. I'm not saying he's as good as Dinwiddie or even Ski, but the guy has enough talent to play solid minutes for a tournament team. It was a harsh evaluation, but not entirely wrong if you are judging him relative to guys like Dinwiddie and Ski.

    FWIW, I would rather see Ski and J Hop starting with XT coming off the bench.




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    One could argue that where you see flaws, others see inexperience.
     
  25. SECOBuffsFan

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    There were also times AD (After Dinwiddie) when XT was the reason the team was in the game because he was making things happen....plus he is a good defender.
     
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    Biggest thing XT gave us last year was he became a very reliable shooter from deep late in the year. He hit some huge shots for us.
     
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    I feel like XT is the new Nate, no middle ground. IMO - XT is fine, he was a horrendous defender and a turnover machine early last year. He started to figure it out around conference play, he'll never be the answer but he can fill some gaps. If he's ever CU's "guy" at any position at any time something went wrong.
     
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    I don't cringe when XT comes into the game.
     
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    Everybody's focusing on being the point guard.

    Makes sense.

    No one's going to take a starting spot from Scott, Gordon, XJ or Ski. Spencer's spot is the one that's up for grabs.

    The wildcard on this is that Ski knows that a professional future at his size is dependent on whether he can run the point.

    Tad's got to think, at least in part, that if Ski could take over primary ball handling it would be a nice situation to have a senior in that spot instead of relying on a younger guy. The other side of that is that you don't want to lose "Ski being Ski" as a no-conscious gunner because there are times you need that. But you can't have your PG having that mindset. How much of what makes Ski special do you lose if he becomes the PG we need?
     

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