If Bohn is interested, he better let him know. South Florida is just another version if Cincinnati but in the state of Florida. Colorado is a better gig.
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So......MacIntyre or DeRuyter?
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If Bohn is interested, he better let him know. South Florida is just another version if Cincinnati but in the state of Florida. Colorado is a better gig.
Salty Dog
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Tim DeRuyter is no good. He is a 1st year HC whose accomplishments were achieved with Pat Hill's recruits. He is an unproven commodity and former coach Hill could have easily done what he did at Fresno State. Until he wins with his own recruits, taking DeRuyter is a BIG risk.
On the other hand, taking a perennial loser like San Jose State to a top 25 ranking is a HUGE accomplishment that is more indicative of his true worth as a Head Coach. What CU needs is someone who can turn things around with his own recruits ... just like McIntyre has done at SJSU. One more thing, DO NOT forget the Utah State Coach. He is very good. Anderson and McIntyre -YES! DeRuyter - NO!
On the other hand, taking a perennial loser like San Jose State to a top 25 ranking is a HUGE accomplishment that is more indicative of his true worth as a Head Coach. What CU needs is someone who can turn things around with his own recruits ... just like McIntyre has done at SJSU. One more thing, DO NOT forget the Utah State Coach. He is very good. Anderson and McIntyre -YES! DeRuyter - NO!
AKfan
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I think you are giving Pat Hill a little too much credit. Pat Hill won 10 or more games once in 15 years at Fresno. Apparently winning 10 games with Pat Hill's recruits is not as easy as you depict (at least for Pat Hill).
duaneallman8
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Then why didn't he? Hill won four games with largely the same team. You are right about proving recruiting prowess, he has yet to do that. But he was a good D-Coordinator at Air Force, engineered an almost immediate defensive turnaround at A&M and did what Hill couldn't with Hill's players. Disclaimer: I think Pat Hill is a very good coach who did wonders for Fresno St., but there is something to be said for what DeRuyter has done. He has done it all short of building a BCS program with his own players
ROFLCOPTER
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Minus a first-team All-american safety, an all-conference safety, 2/3 of the starting DL and a likely frosh-AA WR who had to redshirt because he wasn't cleared early enough. Phillip Thomas alone makes that a seven-win team.
His source is allbuffs... duh
IDK.... I like what he did at A&M, and I like his Texas and Cali ties. With as bad as we have looked in Cali recently, those Texas ties may come in handy. Also the fact that he is a Zoomie just screams leader to me. I know that isn't a guarantee, but at this point I am willing to gamble.
I like both. However, if forced to choose, I'd go with MacIntyre - primarily because he has 3 years experience as a HC. Realistically, if we're looking at guys with minimal HC experience, we might as well open it up to experienced BCS AQ level coordinators.
I get this point that the defense the year before D-Root took over lacked several key players and that may have led to their ranking in the 100s. However, even it the two seasons prior, when presumably the defense was not crippled by key injuries, Fresno was ranked in the 80s nationally. In his one season there, the defense is now ranked 27th nationally. Does some of that have to due with players being healthy? You bet. However, give the man his credit, he's got a track record of turning defenses around quickly. If you're looking for a criticism, it's his lack of experience as a head coach turning around entire programs and reports that his recruiting ability may be lackluster.
:lol:
I'm with Orr on this one. As a general rule, the service academies produce bureaucrats, not leaders. (Not to say that I don't respect the men and women who make the commitment required to go there - they have a ton of respect from me, and they do turn out some real leaders, but the general rule is bureaucrat.)
I'm just saying, of all the services...
I need The Walrus to weigh in on the Air Force here.
I'm undefeated in picking coaches the last decade. I always do it in chat too so there is no record.
Flukes, I think it was one of your people who mentioned that Mac did not come across very well I his interview with you guys. Any intel on that?
There's a record :thumbsup:
Dykes came across very well :lol:
A fan of Thamel and Ringo. That's kind of weird.
It is kind of a bummer that we won't ever get the Butch-Dykes matchup in Berkeley.
I will be pissed if MacIntyre is hired by South Florida before Colorado even talks to him. I would have to imagine that the Colorado job would be much more appealing to him. His recruiting ties can stay intact on the West Coast, he is very familiar with the Pac 12 and Colorado is in a far better conference than South Florida. While South Florida has more fertile recruiting grounds, he would always be fighting an uphill battle against UF, FSU, Miami, and Georgia just to name a few.
That is not the battle as they will not win. You just battle for the leftovers with other lesser teams in the SE.
Those are still damn tasty leftovers.