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Something's up RE: Pac-16

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by OKCBuff, Jun 10, 2010.

  1. OKCBuff

    OKCBuff Well-Known Member

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    I'm still trying to figure it out, but I think the Pac-16 thing is in trouble and that's why CU was invited all by itself earlier today. Texas likely pouted about something and the Pac-10 didn't budge and everything fell apart from there.

    Now, this 16-team has been on the board for a week or so now, so it could always get picked back up, but right now I'm thinking something as changed. UT and A&M might be considering a late SEC run, for example.

    I'm just trying to color in the panes I don't know about right now, so this is part-guess, but the 16-team thing might be toast and Tech, OU, OSU, etc., aren't coming if UT doesn't.
     
  2. 4DemBuffs

    4DemBuffs Most admired poster Club Member

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    perhaps the powers that be in the Pac 10 started to ask around about texas to say.... oh..... kneebraska, TCU, Rice among others and along with a good dose of dealing with texas at the table, decided it would be best to seek other alternatives?

    just talkin....
     
  3. SanDiegoBuff

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    UT seems to be fair game right now and there are a lot of scenarios and rumors floating around out there. They are definitely the next domino to decide. I'm starting to think that they got punked by the Pac-10 and CU moreso than they helped orchestrate the early Pac-10/CU marriage. They know they're not going to have the hand in the Pac-10 they had in the Big-12.
     
  4. buffsyko

    buffsyko Club Member Club Member

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    Is it a good or bad thing if texas doesn't go to the pac 10?
     
  5. 4DemBuffs

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    good, imo.
     
  6. OKCBuff

    OKCBuff Well-Known Member

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    I'm hearing more and more that UT is now considering the SEC, which is what A&M has wanted all along. OU and OSU too.

    We might have escaped the Big 12 South, boys!

    I'll do my best to keep up with what's going on down here, but it seems like the Pac-16 thing is about to burn to the ground.
     
  7. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    I remain convinced that UT wants desperately to keep the Big 12 together in some manner, shape or form. Whether that means a 10 team conference with everybody except NU and CU, or if it means they go after BYU, UU, TCU, Memphis, Houston, SMU, etc., I'm not sure. One thing that is for sure is that if they leave the Big 12, they won't have nearly the power they enjoy now. I think that, more than anything else, is what is bothering them the most. That's why they want so desperately to keep the Big 12 intact, even if it's a little different from what they're used to.
     
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    The PAC absolutely did the right thing in refusing to prostitute themselves to texas at the beginning of the relationship. texas can come in as another citizen of the conference, or they can go their own way.
     
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    Financially probably a bad thing, but as far as not wanting to be lumped into a division with the B12South, I like it better with out those guys.
     
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    The Pac new CU would come on board and 'braska will split. This move has put more pressure on UT, IMO. That was the intent of getting CU on board. Now, maybe, the Big XII will find a couple of replacements and stay in tact, but doubtful. I doubt the Pac is making these moves without having a very good idea what the other schools are going to do.
     
  11. The Guest

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    This is a pretty big assumption. Like or not (I choose not to like it) Texas is a big prize for any conference. I'm sure the Pac didn't just up and say, "Christ you're a big burnt orange pain in the ass Texas...whaddaya say you go **** yerself?".

    It'd be sweet if they did. But the more the current Pac 10 feel is kept alive the better in my personal opinion. Texas jepordizes that climate (well, Texas less than the hangers-on they bring with them).
     
  12. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    All kinds of rumors flying about. I've seen TAM and UT to B10, TAM and OU to SEC, TAM to SEC, UT to B10....

    What I haven't seen is any talk about OSU and TT. God I hope those ****ers get left behind also.
     
  13. CsquaredCC

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    That is a disaster in my opinion especially if Texas ends up in the Big 10. Texas in the Big 10 makes that conference far and away the most influential conference in all college athletics and it takes a big bite out of t.v. dollars out there. UT to the Big-10 would also likely mean that a BCS eligible Big 12 remains in-tact in some form as well. Not a good scenerio for the PAC-10 nor what I think they envisioned when all this began.
     
  14. BuffsNYC

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    CU has been lobbying the Pac 10 for months. I think the Pac 10 had a plan to add 2 teams-CU being one of them. Texas suddenly became available when the corn married the Big 10. I don't think the Pac 10 anticipated that and so scrambled to fit them in--but still kept in their back pocket their original, conservative plan to add CU and 1 other team. So it seems the Pac 10 will welcome Texas and the 4 other Big 12 teams or, if that fails, happily offer one other team to get to 12 with the idea that they may expand later.
     
  15. sackman

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    First off - I think UT is scared sh*tless right now, and is desperate to find a home. They're worried that the landscape of college football is changing and it's doing so without them. So they're floating all kinds of stuff (SEC, Pac, B10, restructured B12) as possible landing places. I think that the Pac got a taste of what dealing with UT is like, and they backed off the 16-team idea. I could be totally wrong, but that's how I read the tea leaves.
    In the end, I really don't care where UT goes, so long as they don't go to the Pac. If they do go to the Pac, I really, really hope they are going alone, and without their entourage.
     
  16. Mick Ronson

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    not only that, if you make a lot of loud noise doesn't mean you are right.....i'm talking to you Baylor and Ken Starr.

    i fail to see one academic ranking that puts BU ahead of CU.....and athletics, please.
     
  17. CsquaredCC

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    The PAC-10 wanted to kill the Big 12 and petition the BCS for its automatic birth.
     
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    leftybuff Iconoclast Club Member

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    I agree. I think UT has been playing the Pac 10. They were leveraging the Pac 16 to keep the B12 together. When that failed, UT has shown their true colors. They are talking to everybody (allegedly SEC and B10) to see what they can get. In the end, they are going to try and keep the B12 together since they are the biggest fish in the pond.
     
  19. OKCBuff

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    Pretty fair assessment from what I know. This thing might have spiraled out of their control and its freaking them out. I can see that.
     
  20. bombay

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    Exactly.
     
  21. Hugegroove

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    Don't you think schools will stay away from joining any conferance texass belongs to because of the way they want to rule the roost? Sure, it might bring a little more prestige & money, but is it worth all of the brain damage?
     
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    My nightmare scenario.

    UT and their leftover B12 minions decide to perpetuate the B12 for a contract that expires at the same time as the SEC contract. During this time, the B12's remaining 10 schools get to feeling punitive to those traitors and infidels that exited. Nebraska and CU get their existing network revenues cut in half as a penalty for their insubordination, effectively extracting $9M of revenue from CU over the next two years, there by reducing CU's total athletic earnings by 10%.

    During this period, UT launches the All Roads Lead to UT network that broadcasts a heavy dose of classic UT-OU games. The minions are occationally thrown a bone or two. During this time, UT hauls in $10M / year, and the UT AD still earns >$140M/year, which is 40% more than OU and Aggie, and three times more than the other minions.

    Then the SEC renegotiates their contract. UT finds out the new SEC super conference would be able to throw $25M a year in TV revenue at them, at which point OU, UT and A&M joins the SEC. The SEC remains top dog. The other B12 minions, who have been loyal to UT during the NU/CU flogging are then left behind holding their peckers.


    And when
     
  23. DesertDawg526

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    Time to add Utah, Kansas, Mizzou and a couple others...
     
  24. Bienemy4life

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    Wasn't the Fox $20 mil. predicated on Tej***** and creating the Pac 16. I'm greedy, I want that cash! But if I didn't have to deal with tu fans; I'm good with that too. I've found them to be among the most ignorant and obnoxious of fans. They think they won every national championship since 1960.
     
  25. buffedup

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    I seriously doubt it could happen, but I would love to see the Fuskers, OU, OSU, Utah, and KU added to the Pac 10. OU and NU get to renew their rivalry, and the Pac still gets an incredible presence in the southwest and midwest without having the UT baggage while drastically increasing the conference strength.
     
  26. SanDiegoBuff

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    This.

    UT wants to be the top dog, period. It'll go to the Pac-10 if it needs to, but if it can line up a bunch of lackeys dependent on it, who won't question it, it'll do that first.
     
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    Nope. I think there would be teams lining up to join a BCS conference, regardless of who's running things. CSU would sell it's left nut to be in the Big 12 with Texas, not that it would ever happen.
     
  28. leftybuff

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    fify.
     
  29. Razorbuff

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    UT going by itself to the PAC wouldn't be a bad thing, but I don't think they'd do it. They like to be top dog and if they go by themselves, they don't have their other little five team entourage to form a nice pro Texas voting bloc. That was the scary thing about the PAC 16 scenario, sure it would bring money, but at what price? Like some on here had said, it would be making a deal with the devil. In addition, if votes need to be unanimous to push something through, do you all actually think UT would vote yes to equal revenue sharing? People keep quoting a $20 million figure, but I guarantee Texas would do everything possible to get a larger share to the detriment of the other schools.
     
  30. GoBruinz

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    I will still maintain that it is probably in the Pac 10's and Big XII's (Texas') interest to tear apart the MWC. Pac takes Utah, Big XII takes BYU and TCU.

    Voila -- no MWC BCS auto-invite (more potential BCS $ for Pac 10); Pac 10 domination of everywhere West of Kansas; Big XII hobbled, but at least Texas not in the Big 10 or SEC.

    I kind of have a feeling this is the way it's going to shake out. Quite frankly I want no part of A&M, Tech, or Okie State. And, at least as far as A&M goes, I think they want no part of the Pac 10. Why invite a school who doesn't want to be there?
     

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