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Soo pessimistic .....

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by VCBuff, Sep 28, 2010.

  1. VCBuff

    VCBuff Active Member

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    Other than replacing the head coach, is there something that you could see on Saturday that would make you believe this team finally turned the corner? If the Buffs somehow manage to win this one, regardless of the score, I am pretty sure I am going to attribute the win more to UGA being down than to the Buffs figuring it out.

    Even if they won convincingly; didn't turn the ball over, we able to run the ball, didn't commit a single illegal procedure/false start/delay of game penalty and made multiple 40+ yard field goals, I am guessing that I would still be expecting a double digit loss the following week in Columbia.

    And following this team is supposed to be fun .....
     
  2. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    I'm expecting a double digit loss in Missouri based on the coaching staff's inability to properly game-plan for that team every time they've ever played them.

    However, if I see quality, fundamentally sound football on Saturday, I'll be very pleased. I haven't seen that all year. Even in the wins, we're playing sandlot/playstation football. I want to see a nasty streak from the O-Line. I want to see running backs hit the hole with authority. I want to see sharp pass routes with well timed and accurate passes. I want to see the defense giving up less than 3 yards per carry on the ground, and about 5 yards per pass attempt. I want to see 50% or better in 3rd down conversions for CU, and 40% or less for UGA. I want to see solid special teams play. Kickoffs into the end zone. 45+ yard punts with little or no returns. Punt returns of 10+ yards/average.

    I haven't seen any of this stuff on a consistent basis since Hawkins has been here. I'm not worried that I'll see it this Saturday.
     
  3. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    I just want a win. I really don't care how. I'm so sick of losing.
     
  4. AlferdJasper

    AlferdJasper Well-Known Member

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    Team Attitude.

    Miller, Clemons, and others getting in the faces of their teammates and demanding their best effort.

    That's what I am believing in - something that makes me think the team is starting to feel like winners and not bottom dwellers.
     
  5. UrbanaBuff

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    It's not so much Mizzou, as it is their spread offense. That is why we lost to Cal by 45.

     
  6. fatbuff

    fatbuff Well-Known Member

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    Does the spread offense make these guys lose thier ****ing minds and commit stupid penalties, or play with the emotion of a blow up doll?
     
  7. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    Bull. CU always seems to play Tech very tough, and usually wins. OU runs the spread and we beat them in 07. We've played plenty of teams that run the spread and have had success. It's not the system, it's the team.

    We lost to Cal by 45 because we turned the ball over, committed 100+ yards in penalties, and couldn't get out of our own way. Their system had nothing to do with it. They were just a better team. They were better prepared, had a better gameplan, and were more disciplined than we were.
     
  8. SINKRATZ

    SINKRATZ Club Member Club Member

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    35 point win, 500+ yards of offense, 250 yards rushing, zero sacks allowed, zero stupid penalties (offsides, illegal motion, illegal substitution, delay of game, etc. - I can live with the occasional facemask or roughing the QB type penalties), positive turnover margin. If this happened, I would regain a lot of hope for this season.
     
  9. rynobuff

    rynobuff Club Member Club Member

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    Didn't we used to own teams with spread offenses, especially when Hank was dc?
     
  10. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

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    We lost to Cal by 45 because we consistently gave them short fields and added two defensive TDs.

    Georgia is the type of team we can beat if we play sound, physical football. Nothing about their scheme or playmakers makes me think that we're going to lose by a bunch. If we are able to keep penalties to a minimum (especially drive killers on O/drive extenders on D), win the turnover battle, and stay even on special teams/field position (a BIG if, GA's punter is awesome), we should be able to win.
     
  11. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    gonna take more than one game, one W to make me convinced. i need to see a string of weekends where it looks like we are building something coherent, improving.....not mix and match game plans where we look like a different (and bad) team every week. not shooting ourselves in the foot on O. no more 3rd and 1's turned into 3rd and 6 because we jump offsides on our own hard count. no more sacks on 3rd down to take us out of FG range. smart, field position football. awareness on special teams.

    for me--beat UGA, show up and be respectable at MU (game not decided in the first half, at least!), beat Baylor by 2 TD's and head into Tech with a sense we can/will win at home. then, i might let the bandwagon drive down my street....and maybe i get on. maybe.
     
  12. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: So we need to do three major things differently than we normally do them?

    EDIT: Check that; four things.
     
  13. fatbuff

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    The problem seems to be that our opposition refuses to blitz. Dan specifically said our offense was going to be "they blitz, we score." Assholes keep using that three man rush to get to Hansen instead of blitzing.
     
  14. CUFan

    CUFan Welcome back Club Member

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    You know better. In DH's world those are the little things. The major things are have fun, enjoy the experience and don't forget to eat your orange and drink your juicebox.
     
  15. SuperD

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    Even a UGA win won't get me drinking the Kool Aid. I refuse to believe they've turned the corner until I see back-to-back quality wins and a road win. Beat UGA AND Mizzou and we'll talk.
     
  16. GoBuffs08

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    This ^^^^^

    We can't beat bad teams on the road.
     
  17. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    I can be won back one quarter at a time.
    If the Buffs were to miraculously string together 8 quarters of fundamentally sound, mostly mistake free football, it would go a long way towards building back some goodwill.

    I'd have to see consistency at home and on the road.
     
  18. SuperiorBuff

    SuperiorBuff Well-Known Member

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    They haven't turned the corned until we can look back after the season and say "wow, that was much better than I anticipated" and not be talking about the band.
     
  19. SJBuff

    SJBuff Club Member Club Member

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    To start with, I'd like to see them play all out for 60 minutes strait. Start fast, stay focused, finish hard and slam the door shut on the dogs. If they do that I may consider pausing my ongoing "Fire Hawkins NOW!!" war cry until the Mizzou game.

    If they can continue to play hard like that in every game for the rest of the season, I will consider hearing a discussion about Hawk getting a shot in '11.

    But, one slow start, one flat quarter, one series where they just go through the motions, and I want Hawk fired, then taken out and shot, then hung, burned at the stake, keel hauled, beheaded and infected with ebola.
     
  20. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I'm surprised some posters are still talking about "turning the corner". Some of you guys are amazingly positive, props to you.
     
  21. BinaryBuff

    BinaryBuff mmmm...beer Club Member

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    Honestly, no there isn't anything right now that this team could do to make me believe we've turned the corner.

    All this team has shown is that they can beat two of the three teams they should (ISU being the 3rd on that list). I'm not getting my hopes up because of 2 quarters of "great" play against a mediocre WAC team. Beating UGA would be surprising, but we've beaten other good teams in the past only to flop the next game.

    Talk to me at the end of the season.
     
  22. SJBuff

    SJBuff Club Member Club Member

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    This team will turn the corner...eventually. I just don't think it will be this year and with this coach. But I have been wrong before.
     
  23. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    Careful with that Buzzkill, BB.

    The Buffs are coming off of two consecutive quarters of entertaining football.

    Can't you feel shifting tide?




    Me neither. But it's been fun to spend four of the last five weeks with a winning record.
     
  24. Rraalph 3000

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    As long as all you debbie downers are screaming for the team hard on Saturday, could care less about the pessimism....last thing we need is a dead stadium on Saturday...the more life from the fans, the better the team always play!

    I'll remain cautiously optimistic for now and even more so if we can win on Saturday....i guess I refuse to throw in the towel on an entire season with a 2-1 record that everyone and their mother expected from this team in the first place...think people always put too much weight on "how" a team wins or loses as well...at the end of the day, that crap doesn't really matter
     
  25. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    If the team gives me something to cheer, I will cheer louder than any other mother****er. So I expect to be very loud 3 times.
     
  26. White_Rabbit

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    Doubt we win this game, and if we do it won't be pretty because it will be due to Georgia sucking big time.
     
  27. deeprig9

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    That's correct, but could be said about most any matchup. Sure, Butler (UGA's punter) is All-American, but you seem to forget UGA just lost to Mississippi State.

    Get worried about Aaron Murray, UGA's QB. Despite the losses, he's got a 143 QB rating as a freshman. With AJ coming in, it could get interesting.

    I'm personally interested to see how our running backs Caleb King and Washaun Ealy perform against a high school team. They can't seem to break tackles against SEC competition.
     
  28. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    First bolded part: The fans have been loud at the games for the past four years and we have not gotten the right return off of our investment. We are loud at the games, but then one thing goes wrong and the team gives up. On the road, they should know they aren't going to be cheered for. It shouldn't mean they shouldn't play. Although in Berkeley we were loud and proud, but they shat on our face for that.

    Second bolded part: Our first game, we won fairly soundly against a horrible team we should have destroyed and the team showed no enthusiasm for the game. I guess the crowd wasn't alive enough. Our second game we got beat 52-7 by an average unranked team. Enough said. Our third game we got shut out in the first half by one of the worst defenses in the nation. If it weren't for two goal-line stands, we would have been down 24-0 at half and I doubt we would have come back from that. We had a good second half, even though the score made it look better than it actually was.

    Sorry if I'm not getting too optimistic about this team yet, but I still haven't been given a reason to. As for going to the game and cheering, yeah I'll do that, just like I have done that for every home game the past five seasons and the Independence Bowl in '07 and the Cal game this year and at least one game every year since I was 5. I like watching good teams that play like they care, but I haven't seen it in a long time. I won't be optimistic until I do, even when we hire a new coach. Results first for me, after the past 5 years of this.

    Neg-rep for this ****.
     
  29. Buffalo Brad

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    I am with you on this one. The corner will be turned eventually but it will take another coach to turn the wheel. I will be yelling loud and proud for the kids as I am a Buff thru and thru. Just not going to elevate expectations.
     
  30. The Guest

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    Superior wasn't talking about "turning the corner" but instead referenced turning "the corned". I'd argue that we have turned the corned. Teams have been corning us for about four and a hlaf seasons now. We've definitely turned corned. It's even worse when we're corned by the corn, but that's a different topic completely.
     

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