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State of the Defense (BDC)

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Shldr2Shldr, Jun 29, 2015.

  1. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    Good coaches know when not to force their system on players that cannot optimize it. This is a good sign, IMO.
     
  3. FlaBuff

    FlaBuff I drive a Dodge Stratus! Club Member

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    really boils down to the question, "do we have a true 2-gap nose or not?" if yes, 3-4, if not, 4-3.
     
  4. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    yup. to run the 3-4 you have to have that player. it doesn't work otherwise.

    Eddy Lopez could be the guy potentially. 6-4 300 is within striking distance of NT weight/size. Up to him to solidify technique
     
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  5. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    "We're not as talented as what you would like. However, when I went to Kansas State, we had the No. 1 defense in the nation and not one of those guys got drafted. There's a lot more to it. We do have guys that play hard and want to do well. I'm encouraged."

    Like his office, CU's defense will eventually get organized. And, Leavitt is hoping that it doesn't take long.


    "We're not going to be the best defense in the country this fall," he said, "but hopefully we stop the bleeding and hopefully we can move to a better direction where guys feel some confidence, because I don't think they've felt a lot of confidence around here. It's been a while. A long while."
     
  6. Shldr2Shldr

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    If the D makes that step, and the O takes another step forward we will be winning more games. We were in plenty of games this year but the offense just couldn't keep up by themselves.
     
  7. TSchekler

    TSchekler Darth's Hero Club Member

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    If he decides that they don't have the guy/s to play NT in a 3-4, I hope the defense is more of a 4-2-5 alignment. Really good for slowing down up-tempo offenses, gives a wide variety of coverage options and disguises and gets one spot in our weakest position (LB) off the field. TCU has had a lot of success in this system.
     
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  8. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    Leavitt will know what alignments to use.
     
  9. BuffNut99

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    Lopez or Justin Solis. If I were Solis, I'd be in the weight room with my ass on fire right now.
     
  10. TSchekler

    TSchekler Darth's Hero Club Member

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    So there's no reason for discussion here?
     
  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Solis is a very capable NT. He might be better as a space eater than Tupou, holding his ground and making tackles on the interior. He hasn't been a 3-down guy who can give a pass rush, though. Tupou also gave that. Lopez has to step up to cause some of the disruption Tupou did. And Leavitt may need to find a DT who can come in at NT for long yardage and dime situations as a designated pressure guy.
     
  12. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

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    Nope. :thumbsup:
     
  13. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    It really comes down to those two. If 1 can separate from the other, then we will be primed for a 3-4 alignment, if not then we have two massive DT's for a 4-3. Not too worried about the DL really. Obviously Tupou would have been a huge asset, but we have so many DL that we should be able to stay fresh enough to be ok in most looks.
     
  14. mdelpizzo_1

    mdelpizzo_1 My Dixie Wrecked Club Member

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    He did discuss it with you, you just don't like his answer. Any answer is a part of the discussion.
     
  15. TSchekler

    TSchekler Darth's Hero Club Member

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    He threw a wet blanket on my enthusiasm for the 4-2-5 defense! :sad1:
     
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    mdelpizzo_1 My Dixie Wrecked Club Member

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    Coach Jim Leavitt is a warm blanket on the program, you should be ok in the end.
     
  17. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Do you think Leavitt would mind if we nicknamed him Snuggie?
     
  18. Shldr2Shldr

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    Snuggie, the useful blanket.

    Ya he might not like that lol.
     
  19. Uncle Ken

    Uncle Ken Orr no morr Club Member

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    Didn't we already use that nickname for [MENTION=73]FlaBuff[/MENTION]?
     
  20. MtnBuff

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    It has to be both,

    Even the very best interior DL don't play every down, if you don't have a rotation then the guys are completely worn down by the fourth quarter. If one of these two guys doesn't step up then they will have to find somebody else who can play enough downs to keep the starter from wearing out.
     
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    nickle and dime most of the time
     
  22. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    That's Lefty.
     
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    Buff_since76 Still a fan... Club Member

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    NT is normally the big key for the 3-4, but in our case doesn't the # of quality LB's also play a significant question to this formula? We are struggling to get 3 quality LB's out on the field, what the hell are we going to do when we need 4? Or is this where the converted DE who is now an LB end up in the true tweener role?
     
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    TSchekler Darth's Hero Club Member

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    4-2-5! 4-2-5! 4-2-5!
     
  25. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    The starting OLBs in the new system are last year's DEs -- Derek McCartney and Jimmie Gilbert.

    So we're really only trying to find 2 ILBs to start. One is going to be Kenneth Olugbode. If healthy, the other will be Addison Gillam. Deaysean Rippy and Christian Shaver are the main depth on the inside, with Travis Talianko and Ryan Severson behind them. Wildcards are Jaleel Awini and Grant Wantanabe. We really need those guys to step up and earn PT.
     
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    It will be interesting to see what Olugbode can do in the new D. Mac has been high on Olugbode from the beginning and all we saw last year was him getting physically out matched, most of the time. The Dlineman holding up blockers could be huge for him to utilize his athletic ability and start making plays. I still don't see what Mac sees in KO, but that could have also meant a bigger issue with our DE's last year than KO. A start would be for him to add some size this off season.
     
  27. FlaBuff

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    [video=youtube_share;CvdmxszsDM8]http://youtu.be/CvdmxszsDM8[/video]
     
  28. Liver

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    the 4-2-5 was the fabled defense that vince no-clue installed under gb and that leaked like the roof of luke's trailer.

    thus, it shall always cause cringes, even if it is a defensible defense in the p12.
     
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  29. mdelpizzo_1

    mdelpizzo_1 My Dixie Wrecked Club Member

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    4 - 2 = 2
    2 - 5 = (3), how the hell are we going to play D with (3) players? Oh wait Baer is gone!

    Bring on the Snuggie D!
     
  30. Uncle Ken

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    Snuggie played O-line, for what it's worth.
     

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