CJ summed up my feelings best when he said "I'm afraid with those excuses continuing to percolate, we'll establish our program as a permanently mediocre program,". I have a proposal on how to fix one issue: Facilities. Does the school have money to perform upgrades - yes. Do they have enough to make a significant impact in the short term - no. Why don't they think outside the box, develop another school tradition at the same time, by creating a Habitat for Humanity (insert cool program name here) type project for CU Athletic Facilities. Use the 30,000 students on campus as volunteer laborers, overseen by foremen of course. You could even expand the labor pool to Alumni, who I think would find it easier to donate time rather than money. I estimate at least 30-40% savings could be had on each project. Imagine the school unity and attachment each one of us would have if we took part in actually building part of the school. After the blue out I know there are very talented, dedicated individuals here who could make this happen. I wish I could carry the ball, but I have a 4 month old in my arms instead. However, I'd bring my 13 and 11 year olds up to Boulder if this program really existed. It's time to stop making excuses, isn't it?