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taking a closer look at our schedule

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by tante, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    it seems we may have caught a break from the scheduling gods at home this year. Of the four traveling pairings, we play the better team of the pairs 3 or the 4 times the second night:

    Washington - Washington St = We play Washington first
    Arizona St - Arizona = we play Arizona after they go to Utah
    Oregon St - Oregon = we play Oregon after they go to Utah
    Stanford - Cal = we play Cal after they go to Utah

    This is also true on the road so we play the stronger team first and get the weaker team after they play someone else:

    Cal - Stanford = we play Stanford after they first play Utah
    Arizona - Arizona St = we play Arizona St after they first play Utah
    Oregon - Oregon St = we play Oregon St after they first play Utah

    Hopefully being a running teams that trains at altitude will help us both at home and on the road.
     
  2. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Where this really might help us with the home games is with the altitude. You might see more effect on the 3rd or 4th day, especially when you throw in jetlag and a game already having been played. Opponents could be gassing if they had just played at Utah a couple days earlier.
     
  3. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

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    I got a little prediction for you. We are gunna run the table.

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  4. BehindEnemyLines

    BehindEnemyLines beware the habu Club Member

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    Or, will it help the opponents adjust by playing in SLC first? True, they should be a little more weary from the travel, etc., but isn't it also true that they might be a little more acclimatized by the time they get to Boulder?

    It will be interesting to see what happens this year and in future seasons.
     
  5. torerobuff

    torerobuff Dancing is forbidden Club Member

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    Some one correct me if I've imagined this, but I've heard its best to either do strenuous activity at altitude right away, as in get off the plane and then go play, or else you have to wait over a week to get fully acclimated. The second to 5th or so day is when your body reacts worst.
     
  6. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Taking a closer look at our schedule, if we want to avoid getting pounded up the rear in yet another sport in this Pac12 inaugural season we must go at least 2-1 vs. Utah, Washington, Washington State in Boulder. Crucial stretch
     
  7. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Wouldn't we play WSU in Pullman? Either way I'd be pretty confident in going 2-1 if we are healthy-ish.
     
  8. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    We don't play in Pullman or Seattle this year. UW and Wazzu are traveling partners, thus we'll play them both at home back to back, as will be the case with Stanford/Cal, Oregon/Oregon St. etc. etc.
     
  9. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    after attending games at the CEC for almost 30 years now, i'm not a huge believer in the altitude factor, just as a straight up all the time factor. sometimes, maybe, teams get gassed at the end of the 2nd half....but, it's not something i count on that much. jmo.

    it can't hurt. and to Creatini's point, i'm not "pretty confident" about anything about this team until they've won some games. we will be better than the Bzdelik teams and maybe some of Ricardo's worst....but, not like it's reasonable to expect this team to pick up where they left off last year just "because" people started actually going to the games in February.

    that's right, it's Saturday and i'm taking it out on the hoops board. gotta vent. :nod::lol:
     
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  10. dyemeduke

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    (I may be wrong and speaking out of my ass) it takes I believe 48 hours to fully acclimate to the altitude for average people, but if you're an elite athlete, I think it takes a lot less. I'm not a big believer in the altitude effect. I think you feel it when you first doing activities, but once your heart rate is up, then you're back to normal. Going DOWN to sea level does help in that you can go longer.
     
  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Altitude shouldn't have much of an effect in the first 48 hours. But from then to about 6 days, a top athlete is going to have trouble due to not having enough oxygen-carrying blood cells. For someone out of shape or for the elderly, it takes 2 or more weeks to get acclimated.

    This became a big deal in the NFL. The conventional wisdom for a long time had been to come out early to play the Broncos (Wednesday or Thursday for a Sunday game). They found that this actually had a negative effect and were better off coming in late Friday.
     
  12. CVilleBuff

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    Haven't we already discussed thoroughly that altitude has no effect indoors?

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    But in all seriousness, the advantage will have very little to do with altitude specifically (it's generally overhyped), so much as it has to do with opponents being tired on the second leg of their road run coming to Boulder after SLC.
     
  13. dyemeduke

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    ...now I'm not in NFL shape, but I am in decent shape. Whenever I come back from traveling and get back to Denver...my runs are a lot harder. This is within the first 48 hours, and usually, after that, I'm good. Your statements are interesting...
     
  14. Buffnik

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    Might be let lag. I doubt your red blood cell count would go down while you were traveling unless you were gone for several weeks.
     
  15. dyemeduke

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    http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/acclimatization-to-altitude.html

    I was traveling for two-three week stints. You're right - apparently one approach is to compete before all acclimatization effects really start to show, but at the same time, one will notice effects (hyperventilation) soon upon arrival to altitude. However, I like how the website links in VO2 - elite athletes just aren't that adversely effected by altitude.

    I did the Warrior Dash in 2010 after two weeks at sea level. Based on this thinking, I should have done just fine, as I came in Friday evening and ran Sat morning. However, the raced killed me...I was sucking air pretty bad. Perhaps I just wasn't in shape, but based on my other race times, I blame the altitude. Granted, Copper is a higher elevation than Denver, so this combined with my sub-elite VO2, had an adverse effect on my performance.
     
  16. Goose

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    ESPN on our homecourt advantage.
     
  17. BehindEnemyLines

    BehindEnemyLines beware the habu Club Member

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    Former faiders coach, John Madden, used to bring the team into Denver as late as possible. He said he saw better results doing this.


    When I came home from USMC boot camp, in prolly the best shape of my life, I had some difficulties breathing while running. I wasn't an elite athlete, but I had just done 3 months of cardio conditioning, so tifwiw. If CTB really has designs on being an up-tempo team, you may very well see opponents "sucking air" later in the 2nd half.
     

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