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Talton putting in a ton of work this offseason

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  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I think most saw the photo with how he has put in a lot of work in the weight room to get stronger this year. That was something he needed for defense and also to fight through screens or to shoot or drive through contact.

    But the work on his game goes way beyond that.

    RyanK has a 2-part interview with XT on BuffStampede.com with Part I debuting today.

    Holy ****!

    XT had been taking 1,000 shots per day this offseason. That's like 5x what would qualify as a "gym rat". And he recently upped that number to 1,200 shots a day. That's from a guy who shot 42.5% from 3pt range last season.

    Dude is putting in the work and then some. Expect him to make another major leap forward this season and have a big impact on our team's success.

    #IsItNovemberYet

    https://colorado.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1667587
     
  2. SECOBuffsFan

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    Good for XT....I hope it pays off during the season and he has a monster year
     
  3. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Hope he's doing smart work to go with that hard work. Impressive dedication and effort. how many hours a day is that, just shooting?
     
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    Practice can't improve your shooting. No chance practice will help him in games.
     
  5. DBT

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    :rofl2: Please! Don't start!!
     
  6. BuffG

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    XT shot 37.3% on 75 attempts from 3 last year.

    If he can shoot 40% from 3 on 125+ attempts this year then we should all be ecstatic.

    Hope he's working on that 66.7% FT rate too.
     
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    Not sure if sarcasm...
     
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    Lol
     
  9. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Thanks. I quoted that number from the article without looking it up. I probably mis-quoted something.

    Anyway, XT's a good natural shooter and this work is going to maximize his ability.

    S2S is referring to an old discussion about whether you can turn guys into shooters. And you can't. You can maximize. But J-Hop is never going to become Levi Knutson from behind the arc. He can get better and be a lot more efficient, but everyone works within a window based on their natural ability. To put it another way... no matter what I did, I would never have become as good of a shooter as Ray Allen.
     
  10. Shldr2Shldr

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    Then your meter is broken.
     
  11. BuffG

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    Agreed. The key is in the form. J-Hop simple doesn't have a jump shot that is projectable to being a very good 3 shooter. Look at Levi's numbers before that incredible senior season. He was never above 35.7%. Then, his senior year he blew up with a 47.4% on 171 attempts from 3. Phenomenal. But he always had good form.
     
  12. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Yeah. The point is that you recruit good HS shooters, you can project and develop them into good college shooters. It may not show up their freshman year, though. If you recruit poor HS shooters, they can develop into passable college shooters but they're not going to become "shooters".

    J-Hop needs to work to gain a consistent stroke that will allow him to be a Jason Kidd style 3 point shooter. He won't be consistently coming off screens and knocking down off-balance 3s with a body on him and a hand in his face like a Reggie Miller or Ray Allen. But he can get to that Kidd level where if a defender backs off him 6 feet to avoid getting posterized, he'll be able to go through a routine and hit a high enough percentage to keep defenders more honest in order to open up the rest of his game.

    With XT, he's got the raw materials to be a "shooter".
     
  13. rolandftw

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    J-Hop needs to work on his ball handling, on court awareness and free throw shooting. 3 point shooting, while nice, really not nearly as important as the other facets of his game.

    Alec Burks was NOT a good three point shooter at all, but still a great college basketball player.

    Far as Talon goes, I'm a huge fan of his game and hoping all of his work pays off.
     
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    We shouldn't be depending on JHop for points behind the arc. That's not his game.
     
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    Why are we assuming all he works on is his 3 point shooting?
     
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    Likely he's using the Larry Bird system: Start at the FT line, then move out to various spots on the floor. He was only 66% from the line; he should be at 75% or better. From 3 pt. land, he should be at least 40%.
     
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    That would be significant and valuable improvement, would give us a better ability to stretch the floor.
     
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    40% from behind the arc? If you're that good, you shouldn't ever shoot from inside the arc.
     
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    Like Stephan Curry?----yes!
     
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    Did some posts disappear from this thread?
     
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    We need Scooby and the gang to solve this one.
     
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    Ruh-roh. We're on it...
     
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    :thumbsup:

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    Thanks for sharing the article! Coolest part was definitely hearing him talk about the work he put into the classroom. You could really hear the pride in his voice as he told me about meeting his classroom goals.
     
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    I hope Talton keeps a chip on his shoulder, one the size of a railroad tie.
     
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    I will always root for XT. After one game that was shortly after the Dinwiddie injury, think it was the UCLA game at CEC, I was real hard on him on twitter. He saw it and responded to me about it. He owned his mistakes and promised to get better. The kid knows there are high expectations with this program now and he has the pride and drive to live up to them. I am excited to see how he does this season.
     
  26. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Wow. Mature kid. Winner.

    There are a lot of reasons he has become a fan favorite. Easy guy to cheer for.
     
  27. Darth Snow

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    This is also a good lesson for those of us who are active on twitter. Be respectful even while mid-meltdown, if possible. I'm sure some of us remember the Josh Scott and Tziskin incident last year.
     
  28. rolandftw

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    Yeah, Talton definitely is open to criticism. I think I tweeted something along the lines of "that was an awful pass by Talton" and he retweeted me. I've been a fan of the kid since day 1, but even more so now.
     
  29. Goose

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    This. 100 times this.
     
  30. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I'm so tempted to give the team bulletin board material this year, though.

    "I bet <insert opponent> is going to make <insert player's twitter handle> look like a bitch again this year."
     

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