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Texas Involved In Preliminary Discussions w/the ACC

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  1. InTheBuff

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    http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2011/sep/5/the-latest-at-least-for-a-few-minutes-re/

    The latest (at least for a few minutes) regarding conference realignment
    Before I get into the fancy writing and carefully crafted update about where we stand in the world of conference realignment, let’s look at the nuts and bolts right away...

    No link here but there are reports that have surfaced that say ESPN Radio has sources saying Texas turned down an offer from the Pac-12 and is now involved in preliminary discussions with the ACC.

    For Texas, this thing is all about what the best option for The Longhorn Network will be. Much like the pipe dream rumors about Notre Dame joining the Big 12 because it would be allowed to keep its TV deal with NBC, the conference that offers up the best situation for TLN — which could include help from the conference office or regional networks — will probably land the Longhorns.

    One recent report said the Sooners and Cowboys are prepared to make the move to the Pac-12, with or without Texas.

    If Texas is talking ACC, or even Big 12, and the Sooners and Cowboys agree to go Pac-12, the time could be right for KU and Mizzou to jump in as the third and fourth teams in the deal. There won’t be time to waste, though. If KU and/or Missouri so much as hesitates for a second if an offer is extended, the offer could be pulled off the table.

    If you're Kansas, and all of this is true, this whole thing boils down to a couple of simple questions.

    1.Do you jump at the chance at stability in the Pac-12, regardless of what that does to travel, recruiting, etc.?

    2.Do you wait out Texas and hope the Longhorns can once again find a way to save the Big 12?

    3.Do you shun the west coast and head to the Big East where a "western division" would make life easier in terms of travel and you would be able to remain with both of your biggest rivals in K-State and Missouri?

    That's a lot to ponder. While you're thinking it over, here's a few links to check out.

    National college analyst Greg Swaim writes that the Oklahoma and Oklahoma State could announce their intentions to leave the Big 12 as soon as Tuesday. He also says that KU and K-State have a standing offer to join the Big East should things crank into high gear.

    Here’s that New York Post article that says KU, KSU and Mizzou could be Big East bound if the OU, OSU, UT and Texas Tech bolt for the Pac-12.

    Here’s a take from Bleacher Report that says the Pac-12 would be wise to take Kansas instead of Texas Tech. Could it happen? You bet. Will it? Whole different question.

    It’s Labor Day, and there’s no doubt that it’s been one of the most aptly named days in the eyes of the Big 12 Conference athletic directors and presidents.

    Rather than firing up the grill and kicking back, phones have been ringing, call-waiting beeps blaring and text messages fired one afte the other, all in an effort to not only make sense of the conference realignment mess but also to make sure that the school they represent was in as good of shape as possible for when D-Day arrives.

    It’s not here yet. But it’s nearing. Quickly. Texas A&M is supposed to officially be announced as the newest member of the SEC in the next couple of days. When that happens, all hell is going to break loose.

    Although there’s been very little said about which school might be Lucky No. 14 for the SEC, you can bet Mike Slive and company know exactly who’s interested and you can be sure that he’s got his list — a very short one — with him at all times and the phones ready. When the call comes, you better be prepared to say yes or it’s on to the next one. There’s no time to waste. Especially now that it appears that that the Big Ten, Pac-12, Big East and even the ACC could all be making their play for new members any day now.

    Some schools, such as Texas, will have multiple options. A source told me this morning that UT president Bill Powers and AD DeLoss Dodds had been in contact with at least three different conferences in the past three days. The goal for the Longhorns always has been to find a way to keep the Big 12 going strong. But in the event that Oklahoma and Oklahoma State hit the road for more stability, the Longhorns are ready to act. The biggest key for UT will be The Longhorn Network — shocker, isn’t it? Whichever conference offers Texas the best proposal with regard to the network will immediately have a leg up for Texas’ membership.

    So what’s all this mean for Kansas? A lot, actually. The Jayhawks have no network, no football dominance, no first-class ticket to paradise here. But they do have options. What’s more, they have plenty of allies. Current and former conference brothers have a vested interest in where the Jayhawks end up. Some are more passionate about KU’s place in all of this than others, but everybody is at least in some way interested in what happens to the Jayhawks. Texas and Oklahoma have both been strong supporters of KU recently, if for no other reason than to keep their basketball programs associated with one of the nation’s elite hoops schools. Think about it. If UT goes to the Pac-12, Texas football remains as strong as ever but their basketball brotherhood weakens. UCLA may have great history but their recent performances and overall tradition pales in comparison to Kansas.

    We could go on and on here about what role KU’s basketball program plays in all of this. We all know that football is the driving force behind the moves but it’s important to remember that elite basketball has a place at the table. It may not be next to the host or even down at that end. But it won’t be at the kids’ table either.

    Stay tuned...
     
  2. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Would be epic and they'd probably let them keep the LHN as well.
     
  3. RK

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    TLDR
    But if it say Texas could go to the acc YES PLEASE
     
  4. SpacemanSpiff

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    If Texas ends up in the ACC I'll be stunned (AND THRILLED!).
     
  5. MtnBuff

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    Texas, go ACC as a quickly as possible, oh and by the way take the Dead Raiders along with you.

    That is all.
     
  6. Sexton Hardcastle

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    Please God let it be true!
     
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    So, how long does it take Texas to kill the ACC?
     
  8. Sexton Hardcastle

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    I find it hard to believe. Texass is posturing .... but for what final outcome ?

    scare OU & OSU to stay in the Big 12-3 ?
    scare Scott into caving in and allowing the LHN to remain ?
     
  10. ShockerHoops

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    I still think it seems more logical for Texas to try and make their own conference made up mainly of all Texas schools, with the addition of any of the remaining Big12 teams that are still there, be it OU, OSU, KU, KSU, Mizzou. There are quite a few Texas schools that are FBS schools, that would probably jump at the chance to join an AQ BCS conference.
     
  11. NashBuff

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    Those dumb Texans...they know that they have to give up the LHN if they want to join the Pac-12 or give half of their $$$ to Texas Tech.
     
  12. CUBUFF80

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    ACC? I hope it's true, but :huh:
     
  13. NashBuff

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    SMU for sure wants in and the same goes for Houston. Texas State and UTSA could be swayed into not going to the WAC if the oppournity presents itself in the Big 12.
     
  14. CUBUFF80

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    It used to be called the SWC
     
  15. rynobuff

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    Texas and Tech to the ACC, KU, MU, OU, OSU to the big east and BU, ISU, KSU to division 2? I'll take it!
     
  16. Darth Snow

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    Turn down an offer from the PAC? Right. :lol:. More like they once again asked for special dispensation and we told them to go **** themselves.
     
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    North Texas, Rice, and UTEP as well.
     
  19. Sexton Hardcastle

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    :lol:
     
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    Chipper's latest briefly mentions the ACC angle...


    http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1261031


    Texas would have to give up LHN if it went to the Pac-12, which has equal revenue sharing and pools its third-tier TV rights in a series of regional networks.

    The $300 million, 20-year contract Texas signed with ESPN has become important to UT's board of regents, sources said, because in an age of higher education cutbacks, UT athletics is contributing $5 million per year to academics in the first five years of the deal.

    If Texas went to the Pac-12, LHN would have to be re-worked so that Texas would share revenue with a partner in a regional network (possibly Texas Tech) as well as the Pac-12, forcing the Longhorns to give up much of their unique branding and riches.

    Holding the Big 12 together, no matter how dysfunctional, is still UT's top priority, sources said. Even football coach Mack Brown weighed in on Monday, saying he wants players' parents and Texas high school coaches to be able to see their players in Big 12 games played all over the state of Texas.

    But if the Big 12 comes apart, another way for Texas to hold onto LHN may be joining the Atlantic Coast Conference, two sources close to the situation said Monday. ESPN holds the TV rights in the ACC and also owns and operates LHN.

    But the ACC would only come into play if Oklahoma left for the Pac-12 and the Big 12 busted up, sources said.

    One source close to the situation said the ACC, which is trying to fend off a potential raid by the Southeastern Conference (Virginia Tech continues to be mentioned by sources as an SEC target), would possibly look to add Texas, Syracuse, Connecticut and Rutgers to grow to 16.
     
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    Can't wait for those epic Rutgers v. Duke and Virginia v. Syracuse matchups
     
  22. White_Rabbit

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    Do we target Kansas and Missouri if we can lure in Okie and Okie State?

    Can't we stick with the 12 team thing for awhile? I suppose with A&M SECing it that it's a foregone conclusion we head to 16 to be safe, but I was looking forward to seeing the Buffs play in the Coliseum and Rose Bowl once a year. I don't exactly make a point of it to venture out towards Stillwater.
     
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    :nod:
     
  24. sackman

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    Yes. Yes we can.
     
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    FSU v UT would make for some damn good games in a few years if this does happen.
     
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    If expansion has to happen, I'd love to see some it work out that we're in with 4 of the Big 8 along with our biggest pre-Big 8 rival in Utah as the teams that got added to the Pac-10. That's a good situation for CU.

    Even better would be if the Texas legislature blocked aTm from moving to the SEC and forced an all-Texas 12 team conference with UT, aTm, TT, BU, Houston, TCU, Rice, UTEP, UTSA, Texas State, North Texas and SMU. It would be fun to watch them try to hold it together. :lol:
     
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    :yeahthat: x 10000000000000000000000000003.
     
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    Good, Texas go ahead and go to the ACC.
     

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