BeachBronco
Active Member
I guess Tom Osborne's time in congress gave him a better grasp on how to handle an athletic department and hire a coach to turn around Nubraska, I yield to your point...
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The case for Mac.
- Thread starter Buffarino
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I guess Tom Osborne's time in congress gave him a better grasp on how to handle an athletic department and hire a coach to turn around Nubraska, I yield to your point...
You left off Jim Mora Sr.
I have no idea where my media guides are but they had a whole section in there about just this subject.
Mac and Miles descend directly from the Bo Schembechler coaching try which descends directly from the Woody Hayes coaching tree. There is a lot in there.
My fear is that he will not get a serious look. If he is hired, he instantly becomes the most powerful person in the AD. Not sure Bohn, Benson and DiStephano would be willing to bring him on board. They would not be able to control him like they can others. Just my $0.02 after thinking about this one.
NashBuff
CSU Knob-Slobberer
Brewster is not that guy I am referring to.
made a small one now...
I'll admit Osborne has done a better job than I expected, but yes I do believe his time in congress gave him experience juggling multiple stakeholders and their interests, negotiating deals, fundraising, dealing with complicated beaurocracies, dealing with angry constituents who criticize your every decision.
Apples and oranges.
DukeCityBuff
New Member
He started a not for profit buisness and has been running it. The reason he was so successful as a HC was he hired and mentored leaders(look how many of his coaching staff went on to be HC), he did not micro manage them but developed them. Look at most of the successful buisness leaders throughout history. Do you think Bohn new much about managing womens waterskiing when in went to SDSU from Idaho?
you guys are over-thinking the job of athletic director. it ain't rocket science. Mac would be great at it if that is something he wanted to do and if an opening were to become available. i think bohn is staying so it is a moot point, but being an ad is not exactly a highly specialized field requiring tech skills.
SteelCity Buff
Member
While it would be difficult to fire Mac if he fails, the failure of the next coach, regardless of who it is, will probably cost Bohn his job. The AD will essentially be reorganized anyway.
SuperiorBuff
Well-Known Member
As Slade said in another thread, "Osborne also has a PhD in Educational Psychology."
Bohn was an AD at Idaho for 5 years before he got to SDSU and he spent the 9 years before that working for the Air Force AD, so yeah I think he was qualified to run the SDSU athletic department. Mac ran a religious organization which is great and I don't doubt his leadership ability, but you have to take the emotional attachment to Mac out of the equation - pretend it wasn't Mac for a minute and be honest, if I told you our next AD would be a 70 year old who coached football 16 years ago and spent the better part of the last 2 decades leading a religious organization most people would be screaming we were f-ing crazy.
HornBuff
Horns Down
So true. I think AD is way more about judgement, leadership and wisdom vs. some kind of technical knowledge/skill set.
BuffFan
Member
The true role of the AD, is about Fundraising, leadership, vision and closing the deal. Bohn has accountants to help manage budgets, lawyers and personnel for negotiations, compliance personnel, assistant ADs for other departments, and facilities managers. Do you think Steve Jobs develops and makes the iphones? No he provides the vision and leadership that attracts the right people and puts them in the right place to succeed. I think Mac understands that and is in fact more qualified. Mac knew to build a program you needed to build an army of Fans and players. Mac knew to get them interested you needed to play a big time schedule. He never would schedule an away only game with OSU, or a TV contract that has the fans missing ¼ of the CU games. That is just not fan friendly. And don’t get me started about the Mile High showdown fiasco.
fatbuff
Member
You do realize that the Promise Keepers dwarfs any little university athletic department, in both scope and budget? Mac is much more than an inspirational speaker, he has all of the qualities that successful CEOs wish that they had.
Buffsfan09
Member
I worry about his stamina to be coach. We don't need to pay for a Jo-Pa. Most college football coaches are in the office until 1,2,3 am and some sleep there overnight 3 to 4 days a week. I don't know about Mac, but my 66 year old Dad can't keep his eyes open after 9. He'll be 71 next year right? Tough.
buffalo30
Well-Known Member
Jim Mora, Sr. was on Eddie Crowder's staff 1968-73. Eddie always had good assistant coaches just like Mac. And did someone in this thread say Mac is unqualified to be an AD? Wow. He is obviously as qualified as anyone.
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
Well-Known Member
McCartney has never even remotely indicated he is interested in becoming CU's athletic director.
I think you are thinking of the NFL. Steve Spurrier went back to college so could the rounds of golf in that he is used to. He was shocked by the amount of time that required as the head coach of the Redskins.
"Coach Steve Spurrier was more of a CEO during his 2002-03 stint with Washington. He was known for playing more golf than practicing at Florida, despite winning a national title. Spurrier limited golf to the offseason with the Redskins, though he did call in his resignation to owner Dan Snyder from a golf course."
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...f-the-NFL-7953761-50531887.html#ixzz14zTDMSqE
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...f-the-NFL-7953761-50531887.html#ixzz14zTDMSqE
buffalo30
Well-Known Member
I believe that is true. I was simply responding to comments that he is unqualified to be an AD. He probably doesn't want to be an AD, but he sure is qualified.
I would also rather see him coaching, recruiting and motivating.
Bienemy4life
Member
Mac isn't stupid enough to come out and say hey Bohn, I'm gunning for your job. But I also think it's why Bohn will brush off Mac, to protect his own hind parts. I get the feeling Bohn will say thanks but no thanks to Mac because he's threatened by him. Bohn isn't just looking for a coach. He wants to ink a coach, then a new deal for himself. Not necessarily in that order.
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Buffsfan09
Member
Buffsfan09
Member
Hey, if your for Mac then I'm for Mac. I'll support the hell out of him if that's the direction we go. Loyd Christmas said it best....."Senior citizens, although slow and dangerous behind the wheel, can still serve a purpose."...."Don't you go dying on me!"