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The Elephant in the room

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by lvbuff, Oct 8, 2011.

  1. lvbuff

    lvbuff Well-Known Member

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    The offensive line is just terrible. Some have argued that they have played well. Maybe it is time to sit the seniors and start coaching up the new ones. These guys are soft and have bought into a culture of losing. Hopefully JE will have another reckoning this week.
     
  2. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Play to win. Now. Jesus christ.
     
  3. Idot Buff

    Idot Buff Club Member Club Member

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    The Mormon version?
     
  4. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    agreed. asiata got some plays. dannewitz had a horrible game. miller was a non-factor, Handler was a penalty machine... Bahktiari screwed up pretty bad early. didn't see adkins do anything.
     
  5. PhillyBuff

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    If we only had some elephants on the line and not in the room
     
  6. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Miller drove me a little bat**** with his lack of emotion. I don't know how to deal with it.
     
  7. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    He doesn't have any. Fully HaLked. These seniors don't have a single leader amongst them.
     
  8. CenturyBuff

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    This, sadly, is absolutely true.
     
  9. lvbuff

    lvbuff Well-Known Member

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    Miller is the first one to cry when the critics come out. He was heralded as All World Bad Ass. He has under performed to date.
     
  10. Buffellow85

    Buffellow85 Well-Known Member

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    This.

    Tyler appears to get upset and jaw with guys, but it doesn't seem to have any effect.
     
  11. PhillyBuff

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    I went full out bazonkers on a player on the sideline in 1997 at the CU NU game that showed no emotion..... The players father used to post all the time at The other site..... I went full out bat**** on him a few years later.....

    I felt like I cared more than he did....
     
  12. NashBuff

    NashBuff CSU Knob-Slobberer

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    First thing Embree needs to do is tell Miller to zip it on Twitter.
     
  13. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    I thought that happened awhile ago, no?
     
  14. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Miller has been quiet on twitter since the CSU game.
     
  15. OrangeBowl

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    Aside from being retarded,Millers tweets haven't been bad
     
  16. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    :lol:
     
  17. lvbuff

    lvbuff Well-Known Member

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    My question is why can't they hold their own. Two Srs. All have decent size. Marshall is good coach. So is it a scheme problem? Heart problem?
     
  18. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Talent + heart.
     
  19. aik

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    I don't see our line having enough depth to sit the seniors. Otherwise I'd be all for it. Same at most positions.
     
  20. lvbuff

    lvbuff Well-Known Member

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    Meh
     
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  21. FChairbanks

    FChairbanks muthaka slayer Club Member

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    **** that.

    sit them.

    if we can't get any fire out of the seniors i'll be glad that they get their degree and good luck to them in the workforce.
     
  22. patebuff

    patebuff Downgraded to half a star Club Member

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    This is what I think, and just an opinion. Sorry for the grammatical errors and punctuation.

    Hawkins was a scatter recruiter (that's what I am going to call it). He recruited based off of recommendations or just pure find the best/twinkle in the eye recruit. When you recruit this way you have a team mixed with physical players, finesse players, bad players, lunch pail players, dumb players, etc. You have no team identity. You have a team that is mixed. Granted, I believe you need physical and fast football players. In high school coaching I believe you coach offense and defense based off of what you have, because you have to. In college and pro's you tell everyone your identity and then recruit/draft/trade for it. Look at OKstate (pure offense spread), lsu (pure physical team), Stanford (pure physical + smart + assignment orientated), Wisconsin (same as Stanford), etc.

    Embree has came out since day one and said we will be a physical team and we want to be like Stanford (offensively and defensively). Obviously we aren't a physical team. If Embree came out and said we were a spread team we still wouldn't be a spread team or good. This will take time for Embree and company to recruit the type of players they want.


    I am truly surprised why people think changing a culture in football is so easy. I am as frustrated as anyone, but this coaching staff is preaching the same thing, week in, and week out.

    Stanford would be a bowl team with Andrew Luck at the helm and Northern Colorado’s players. No disrespect to UNC. I actually went there for a while.

    Saying this, we may have the worst physical offensive line ever. Watch our offensive line and it almost seems like they take a step back (even on power I, 2 tight ends, 1 full back, with 1 receiver). We seem to be in permanent pass/don't hurt me blocking mode. At least that’s what I see.

    I understand people flipping out on every moment of CU football but I think this will take time. Especially with the complete change in culture.

    Rant over. For now
     
  23. Idot Buff

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    Hey Pate...good post....38 posts in three years? Come on, man...
     
  24. FChairbanks

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    pate...awesome post. rep to you. stay active on the board, we need people like you around here
     
  25. patebuff

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    Can I blame my wife for the lack of posting?
     
  26. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    this thread is worthless without pics...
     
  28. CenturyBuff

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    Excellent points. As much as we hate the time factor, changing a negative/losing culture takes time, we want to happen overnight, but it just doesn't go like that.

    This is the rebuilding that should have began last year, but keeping D2 around just continued the downward trend and put us back that much farther.

    The comments on our O-line's physicality are spot on. We talk about running the football and being physical, but we don't have the horses to run the race (both O-line and running back). Embree's got to stay on track with his plan and the staff has to mesh and become the recruiters we hired them to be. If they manage to upgrade the talent we'll end up saying wow, look at how the coaching has improved.
     
  29. ElCunado

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    I just think he really plays down to competition. Remember, he did a good job against Suh.
     
  30. fervorfactor

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    If I've said this once, now I've said this twice. The seniors on this team aren't stepping up because they don't know how to. Previous regime mind set. When is enough enough. They haven't gotten to that point yet. I think this is gonna be a long process. I do like the attitude Embo is setting. It's an investment that will take a while to pay off. Read the Irwins statements about the challenge of building up a losing program. We suck right not and will suck for a while. The big question is how long is a while.
     

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