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The Pac-12, the Big Ten, the four-team playoff and Larry Scott’s … line in the sand??

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  1. RSSBot

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    Jon Wilner

    It’s the season for conference meetings, and college football’s postseason has taken the place of realignment as the hottest topic in the room. One day Nick Saban is ripping “self-absorbed people” — perhaps the funniest thing the Nicktator has ever said — and the next, the Big 12 is coming out in favor of a [...]

    Originally posted by College Hotline
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  2. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    I still think the ACC has some power schools that are either going to jump to another conference or pull pieces to try and become a power player.
     
  3. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    good read.
     
  4. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Good stuff. I think Wilner pretty much nails it with the PAC-12/Big 10 coalition being as strong as ever.
     
  5. J.R. Ewing

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    I hate to see the ACC and the Big East get completely left out. It opens the door to some not so fun realignment options.
     
  6. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    They won't be in a plus one model.
     
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    what do you mean? in a plus one model, it seems SEC/Big 12 winner versus PAC 12/ Big 10 winner in a game for the national championship.
     
  8. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    You don't think an undefeated FSU or VaTech wouldn't get into a plus 1? Almost certainly in. Does give a leg up to the big 4 tho.
     
  9. tante

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    absolutely but doesn't that wreck the collaboration of the four "power" conferences. It gets messy on who you leave out at that point. Do you play the winner of the SEC/Big 12 game or winner of Pac 12/ Big 10?
     
  10. Darth Snow

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    depends on who has the better record methinks. Selection committee, BCS, whatever will pick.
     
  11. wsp4820

    wsp4820 Sally Club Member Junta Member

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    Depends if the plus-1 is based on some sort of ranking system or if the plus-1 is just the winners of the Rose Bowl and the B12/SEC bowl.
     
  12. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    it won't be the latter.
     
  13. J.R. Ewing

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    I'm sure that's what the SEC/B12 folks are pushing for.
     
  14. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    they are pushing for the top 4 teams based on ranking. Everyone else doesn't want that.
     
  15. PhillyBuff

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    It is clear to me that they favor better games and scheduling over going undefeated on 3-4 cupcakes.... Face it... The B1G and the PAC have a better revenue model for TV games because they are forcing their members to play better non-conference opponants....

    The "Rose Bowl" Coalition does not want to be left out of a championship game due to better scheduling...

    I LOVE IT.
     
  16. PhillyBuff

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    Because that enables poor non-conference games....
     
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    tante Club Member Club Member

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    who do you mean they? I think Scott wants a playoff model:

     
  18. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    are you reading what you quoted?
     
  19. tante

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    yes, why are we interpreting it so differently. If you read the WSJ article (and even this one I think) Scott doesn't want the SEC to be rewarded for playing 8 games and 4 cupcakes, while the PAC:12 teams go through a tougher schedule. So a two loss Colorado could be better than a one loss Alabama even though Alabama will be ranked higher because they are on the east coast. If they redo the rankings after the bowl games they will pit two east coast school against each other and he would rather they take the winner of the Rose bowl and Rose bowl east in a title game.
     
  20. Darth Snow

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    :bang:

    Scott wants a plus 1 now that there is a big 12/SEC matchup. If we do have a playoff, he doesn't want it to be the top 4 teams.
     
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    what quote makes you think that is what he wants.
     
  22. Darth Snow

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    1. Go to OP.
    2. Open article linked in OP.
    3. Focus on this part:

    Then read Wilner's take on that part (his interpretation, but he's the best guy for this sort of thing and the PAC):

     
  23. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    there is nothing that says this is what scott wants, and using some guys speculation based on what a husker says is just plain wrong.
     
  24. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Umm. Ok. Note the part where he says "Scott's comments" and also the words "conversations with league officials" as also informing his opinion.

    And please present evidence for your opinion as to otherwise.
     
  25. tante

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    Perlman (husker) was the one who gave the comment that he wants the plus one.
     
  26. Darth Snow

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    You ever read between the lines?
     
  27. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    is this some kind of racist comment?
     
  28. Darth Snow

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    Hopefully. But seriously, I would love to see you back up your opinion as to Larry Scott and his wants given that you are apparently unable to infer anything or even believe the opinion of the most informed media guy in the nation.
     
  29. tante

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    I posted the quote that gave me my opinion. posts 17 and 19 have it all and how I formed my opinion.
     
  30. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Wow. That's amazing to me that you extracted that meaning from what he said especially in the context of the media and dodds' response. Basically, you are wrong.

    Anyone else agree with tante?
     

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