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The QB switch?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Timbuff10, Sep 8, 2012.

  1. Timbuff10

    Timbuff10 Member

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    I am not saying that Webb is the root of the problems here but lets hope that since all the positions are open again, that Wood comes out as the starter for at least next week. We have seen Webb at Kansas and now here and even though he may be serviceable if he has a good team around him, it is clear that he is not the guy that is going to spark this team. Maybe Wood has that mojo? If not, then Hirschman is up a week or two after that.

    Another thing that is clear is that our line will not give the QB more than 3 seconds. After that, the ball better be out or the QB better be running.

    Oh yeah, and now that it is on film for the world to see, expect a LOT of blitzes the rest of the year. If I was the DC playing against us, I would blitz just about every down... We have not done anything against it.
     
  2. CUAviator

    CUAviator Well-Known Member

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    In Wood's one play today, he just looked good standing out there on the field and his pass to GT was spot on, in stride, and had nice velocity.
     
  3. Timbuff10

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    Yeah, I wanted to mention that, but figured some one would say that was just one play. Hell, he did more in that one play than Webb did most of the game. The crowd was FIRED up to see him too. That is when most people learned about the new rule for helmets coming off.
     
  4. BuffClass90

    BuffClass90 Banned BANNED

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    I thought he looked good...like he belonged in the huddle and had presence. I think the guys like playing for him more too, but that's just a guess.
     
  5. CUAviator

    CUAviator Well-Known Member

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    After only seeing Webb so far all year, Wood looked like a giant.
     
  6. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Gotta give Wood a chance next week...I mean for the love of god, try it. Webb is not winning us any games. Maybe Wood isn't for now, but the upside is there.
     
  7. FightCu1414

    FightCu1414 Fifth year Senior Club Member

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    wood just seemed to have a better presence just from that one play. Looked comfortable in the pocket, confident and I am going to say it a leader. This is a tad extreme for one play that was just a screen but he may be the spark we need. It would definitely show the fan base some change.
     
  8. boydbuff

    boydbuff Club Member Club Member

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    It is really hard to judge whether Wood could do any better based on one play. Having said that, we lost our 2 easiest games on the whole schedule with Webb and we could be heading for an 0-12 season. No chance in hell of a bowl this year.

    What do we have to lose???
     
  9. BuffLuKe

    BuffLuKe Club Member Club Member

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    Id let him go, u have nothing to lose now. It shouldnt be a discussion. Didnt see the game but it doesnt sound like Webb did much. The dude was a big time recruit, see if he can be a big time player. Ive seen alot of guys that practiced like **** but ,gameday, it was on. I dont see the downside of letting him spin, just dont.
     
  10. OUBuff

    OUBuff American Club Member

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    I gave Webb the benefit of the doubt after the CSU game. I saw him running for his life more than anything else. Yesterday, I saw a QB that missed passes he should have hit, passes that would have kept drives alive and opened up the running game even more. I saw a QB that did not recognize the coming blitz and make adjustments to a hot.

    This team needs to make changes and this is one good place to try something new.

     
  11. Creebuzz

    Creebuzz Club Member Club Member

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    Agreed, it's time to see what Connor can do.

    As the OP stated, there are a myriad of problems beyond QB play, but there are several things about Webb's play that I don't like. He seems uncomfortable lining up directly behind center, and he moves awkwardly in the pocket. Due to his small stature he seems to bounce around behind the line or use roll outs to open passing lanes. Since he's not particularly fleet of foot, the roll outs lead to slow developing plays where he's throwing off his back foot. Further, since he's slow, the defense doesn't have to respect his running ability at all on the edge.
     
  12. GoonieBuff

    GoonieBuff Not really Club Member

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    Do it. Bring the Wood. In fact, I no longer would cry if Hirschman sees the field. That's how bad we are, and that's how much I feel like my pride has been sucked out by this team.
     
  13. BuffHerd

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    EBs playcalling aside, Webb has not demonstrated that he is capable of gaining any confidence. He tends to throw balls 5 yards past/over receivers when they run sideline routes, yet underthrows over the middle. I think it is time to see what the other qb have to offer. Wood looked comfortable in the spring game, but then again, maybe that defense is the only one our offense will look good against this year.
     
  14. bigskybuff

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    You have to give wood a chance. Webb is a huge liability. He's slow, apprehensive, throws terrible deep balls, never puts the ball in a place the receiver can catch and run with it and seems like he expects to get hit and plays slow.

    Other than that, he's a playmaker.

    EB has been horrible and the online is pathetic. No nastiness or attitude. Put nembot in. I don't care if he ends up blocking the lineman or a cheerleader, at least he looks like a football player. Can't be any worse than what we've seen so far. Also, how long does blacken get a pass when both our lines get manhandled by inferior football players.

    The only people on our team that are any good play slow because they are so young.

    Just a clusterfuk and an embarrassment to the university. It won't change until we get rid of the dead weight at the top.
     
  15. BuffLuKe

    BuffLuKe Club Member Club Member

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    No reason he shouldnt get a shot. Webb is all ****ed up now, he was a different qb once he got smacked around by Csu. Get a guy that can stand in there and take a shot, Wood is prototype size. Big arm and can move too, shouldnt be a discussion.
     
  16. tsarbomba

    tsarbomba One Damn Dirty Ape Club Member

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    Word. While Webb showed flashes of being halfway decent, he: (1) consistently failed to see wide-open receivers down field; and (2) threw wildly inaccurate passes to open receivers when he saw them. If he had successfully completed passes, maybe the "bad play calling" people (including me) are attributing to EB would not have looked so "bad" in the past two games. I would like to see them give Wood, or even Hirshman, a chance at this point (or, frankly, Shane Dillon). It can't get worse, and maybe they will get a spark from a new QB. On the other hand, none of us get to see these other guys play in practice . . .
     
  17. bigbang2

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    They need to start preparing Wood or Hirschman for next year or to complete with Dillon for the starting Job.
     
  18. CUAviator

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    I'm not sticking up for EB (necessarily). But what the hell is the guy supposed to do? He gives the ball to Powell, Powell gains yards. He dials up a pass play, Webb can't connect...ever. So thing only thing left...give the ball back to Powell.
     
  19. Highlander

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    The problem is that he gave Webb way too many opportunities to prove he couldn't do it. The only thing working yesterday was CP up the middle and yet in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, we did it as little as possible. Despite how bad our D was, this alone cost is the game.
     
  20. Burrito Palazzo

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    Not connecting on a lot of passes allowed them to bring the house. Webb's role of handing the job to CP can be filled by anyone. Wood could get a shot. If he does, be prepared for some interceptions. Wasn't that his main critique? He was gripping the ball too tight, and trying to force things?

    I'm willing to accept those kinds of mistakes. Right now we need someone to force things.
     
  21. Gary Indiana

    Gary Indiana Club Member Club Member

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    Webb is the type of QB who won't lose the game for you, but also isn't going to be the reason you win. Again, it was only one play but the pocket presence of Wood looked really good. At this point roll the dice it obviously can't get any worse.
     
  22. Duff Man

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    The fact none of our backups were able gain any experience these first two weeks is bad news. How we can have so many QBs on the roster and we still only have one with game experience (okay, Hirschman has one half) is a little crazy.
     
  23. bigbang2

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    After watching Arizona beat Oklahoma State so badly. We lose nothing making the switch now. The team is going to have a poor record either way. Atleast the younger QB gains experience.
     
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  24. bigbang2

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    And we see what we have in the younger QB.
     
  25. Shldr2Shldr

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    I have a feeling if things do not look better in a week or two and we will be seeing lots of switching on our Football team. Especially after what Rich Rod just did to OSU.
     
  26. tsarbomba

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    I think that the evidence is contrary to your assertion. Webb lost the Sac State game for CU. There were so many horrible passes thrown to open receivers, and so many open receivers not seen. He killed numerous drives single-handedly, just as much as had he thrown three or four INTs. If we had a halfway decent QB, we would have beat Sac State by 30 points, even with our pathetic defensive performance. You can also blame the coaches for going with Webb, but Webb lost the game for CU, plain and simple.
     
  27. Creebuzz

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    Webb had a bad game. Of note was the terrible sack he took in the 4th quarter. CU was driving with the ball near the 25 yard line...Webb takes a long sack which moved CU back to a 52 yard FG attempt, which Oliver missed but the officials gave Embree a mulligan after a ref error on the play clock. CU re-thought it and punted. Webb needed to out run the d lineman, get outside the tackle box and throw it away, but he just physically couldn't.

    Connor is mobile, which may prove to be a bigger factor in his favor than anything else, as it may keep the opposing defense a little more honest if they have to worry about the QB scramble. Presently, if you're a D coordinator, you have an easy game plan...stack the box and bring it. The backs aren't fast enough to get the edge, Webb can't scramble, and the WRs don't get enough separation to warrant anything more than straight man coverage.
     
  28. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

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    "Connor is mobile"

    Says who??
     
  29. AllStarBuffs

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    webb is BAD, gosh damn, i didn't think it was possible for CU football to be worse than the Hawkins era, how low can we go?
     
  30. Creebuzz

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    Haven't seen it myself, but heard from **gulp** practice reports. Not suggesting he's a dual threat QB, but faster than Webb.


     
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