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The SEC is doomed

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by buffs, Dec 7, 2011.

  1. buffs

    buffs Club Member Club Member

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    Ted Miller post referring to another ESPeNiS reporter's article that the PAC 12 will over take the SEC as the dominant football conference. Interesting idea. The comment section is on fire right now and worth your time.
     
  2. sackman

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    I'd love to see it happen, but frankly, I doubt it will. They love their football in the South.
     
  3. White_Rabbit

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    Well this should be interesting when Bama Chuckles finds this.
     
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  4. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    There's wayyyyy more talent in the South
     
  5. NBDefektor

    NBDefektor Well-Known Member

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    While maybe totally unrelated, I nominate "buffs" for username of the year.
     
  6. Pale Ale

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    Realistically, you have the PAC, SEC and B1G and then everybody else. ACC is in the conversation, but still a basketball conference imo.
     
  7. CarolinaBuff

    CarolinaBuff Weekend Poster Club Member

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    I guess you can dream, Brock.
     
  8. CUBUFF80

    CUBUFF80 No Stinkin' Title Club Member

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    No way, they take their football way too seriously down there.
     
  9. Creebuzz

    Creebuzz Club Member Club Member

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    Rather than debate this, print it and show it to our east coast recruits.
     
  10. Bama Charlie

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    Nothing to do with talent, everything to do with academic standards. Remember, Alabama admitted Forrest Gump.
     
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  12. Cal84

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    It's the money matters theory. Which is actually correct, but to say that the SEC will fall below the P12 assumes that the SEC will sit pat when it comes to money matters. Which it will not.
     
  13. rynobuff

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    The SEC while always good, has not always dominated. College football goes in cycles and so to go power conferences.
     
  14. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    The ACC puts in as many athletes as the SEC into the NFL.

    This isn't about the NFL though and never has been. The quality of their non-NFL talent is pretty big compared to other conferences.

    That and their fanaticism and year round football helps. Coaches that get paid boo-koo bucks also adds to it. As does the CBS deal and ESPN deal. I doubt the Pac12 could surpass the SEC, but that doesn't mean we can't step up our game and make it more competitive though top to bottom.
     
  15. Bama Charlie

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    The SEC had 49 players selected in last month's NFL draft, the 11th time in the past 13 years that it tied or led for the most draft picks among college football conferences.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=5176786
     
  16. The Guest

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    Who was the former Buff that posted an anti-SEC rant?

    He based his entire argument on the notion that the fat people in the South are faster than fat people elsewhere. It was awesome.
     
  17. The Guest

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    Your response doesn't refute Miami's point. For instance, let's say that the SEC led the ACC by only a slim margin in those 11 of 13 years, but the ACC dominated the other two?

    I don't know the answer here, but your argument is a poor one, assuming that you want to prove that the SEC has more players than the ACC in the NFL.

    Carry on.
     
  18. Bama Charlie

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  19. Bama Charlie

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    I understand, in theory, they could be. I highly doubt it and so do you but I can't find the numbers on it right now. I will and I will post them when I find them.
     
  20. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    http://www.southernpigskin.com/acc/view/sec-acc-continue-to-lead-way-in-draft

    Oooh. 3 more guys than the ACC. Dominating!

    I mean how could anyone else compete? The fact that SEC fans claim superiority because 3 more guys got drafted from their team than a weak ACC conference is moot. Ok, you guys have more drafted people. But it's not like you have the only talent.

    Besides, stats could be altered in any way you wish.

    http://www.bcinterruption.com/2010/...rosters-acc-teams-lead-way-with-18-selections

    So looking at long term prospects the ACC leads in NFL Pro Bowlers. Hmm. A more telling stat.
     
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    I just want you to construct the best argument you can. I'm here to help.
     
  22. Bama Charlie

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    ACC School Draft picks First-rounders
    Boston College 22 7
    Clemson 29 4
    Duke 2 0
    Florida State 59 14
    Georgia Tech 27 3
    Maryland 29 3
    Miami 67 26
    North Carolina 29 4
    NC State 28 5
    Virginia 34 6
    Virginia Tech 52 4
    Wake Forest 19 2
    ACC Total 397 78
    SEC School Draft picks First-rounders
    Alabama 42 5
    Arkansas 30 6
    Auburn 38 6
    Florida 59 12
    Georgia 61 10
    Kentucky 18 1
    LSU 55 9
    Mississippi 26 6
    Mississippi State 18 0
    South Carolina 30 4
    Tennessee 60 12
    Vanderbilt 14 2
    SEC Total 451 73

    http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1215565
     
  23. Bama Charlie

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    The important part was 'the 11th time in the past 13 years that it tied or led for the most draft picks among college football conferences'.

    You made something up and I called you out. Don't be douchebag about it.
     
  24. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Pac-12 is the only conference that could challenge the SEC for the #1 spot.

    1. Money.
    2. Shifting population demographics.
    3. Recruiting dominance of a region with a lot of talent, speed and great QBs.

    I mentioned this in another thread, but I'm hearing more and more recruits refer to the Pac-12 as the "SEC of the west".
     
  25. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    BC had 26 first round draft picks since '00?

    First round picks
    1. Miami 26
    2. Ohio State 16
    3. USC 15
    4t. Florida State 14
    4t. Texas 14
    6t. Florida 12
    6t. Oklahoma 12
    6t. Tennessee 12
    9t. Georgia 10
    9t. Penn State 10

    At 40 that beats the SEC's 32 for first round draft choices.

    You can also use stats to alter the truth.

    I don't even like the ACC. They don't take their football serious enough.
     
  26. BuffLuKe

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    There is no theory, somebody can play, they can play. The SEC is the end all be all is bull****. If we are talking front 7, Ill listen to u. The crap that their speed is different is bull****. You should understand being the opposite of 35 that this runs in cycles. I seem to remember Tommy Frazier ass raping Florida. Auburn wanted U$C that year u spoke of? Yeah ok. You let your arrogance override your brain.
     
  27. Cal84

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    I agree. The money and demographics are too powerful in the long run. Although I still would like to see the post about SEC fat people running faster than fat people elsewhere. That would be pretty funny. Caffeine injected into the butter, perhaps?
     
  28. Bama Charlie

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    Most of UM 1st rounders were when they were in the Big East. Those numbers don't include last year's draft which SEC had 10 1st round and ACC had 2. If you don't count them then you have 12 teams vs 10 teams.

    They do however take their basketball and lacrosse seriously.
     
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    I wouldn't term it "arrogance" so much as parochialsim. But I don't think that anybody is arguing that the SEC isn't the dominant football conference at the moment. Also, they don't have problems filling stadiums in the Southeast.
     
  30. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    You need to work on your reading comprehension. "As many" does not mean surpass or eclipse. The ACC keeps up, but it's not like other conferences aren't represented. I'm not going to give the SEC a rimjob because of something statistically insignificant. It's not like the SEC puts in more guys in the league 3 deviations from the norm with respect to other conferences. You guys put in more, but it's not like everyone else is a HS team. Give me a break.

    If you look at the demographics, the South (and Florida, esp Miami-Dade) is where the talent lies. That's the SEC's stomping grounds and why the SEC and ACC garner a lot of attention. Per capita the South (and Florida) have more guys in the NFL than any other league.

    That's a component of why SEC football is king right now, but it's not the only one. Clemson and VT are really the only "football" schools in the ACC, with Miami and FSU needing to get their **** together.
     

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