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The Texas sucks and this is a great Monday thread.

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by pcbuff, Dec 8, 2014.

  1. pcbuff

    pcbuff Well-Known Member

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    Baylor and TCU just found out what the cost of riding Texas's coat tails is. They can whine and moan and throw their arms in the air, but in the Big Texas Conference, Texas would be in the dance with 1 or 2 losses. And that is what the Big Texas conference is all about. Putting Texas in the dance at the end of the season. Do you think Texas should have to play some upstart in a championship game?

    So Baylor, write your congressmen with your outrage. TCU write you grandpa and tell him to write his congressmen about how he is going to stop the gravy train. The whole purpose of your existence is to make checks for Big Tex, and keep out of the way. You didn't do either this year and now you see what your own conference thinks of you. They'll put up with OU winning about a third of the titles, but the rest are reserved for the big Tex!

    Things are tough at CU, but thank God we are no longer a part of that nightmare!!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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  2. BuffLuKe

    BuffLuKe Club Member Club Member

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    Well seems like funerals are a popular topic in Waco these days.
     
  3. Bufffan68

    Bufffan68 Club Member Club Member

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    Look for the Small XII to add to teams to actually get to XII and have a championship game. Boise State and BYU.
     
  4. Mr. Babar

    Mr. Babar I have no elephant books Club Member

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    Was opposed to the Pac16 expansion three years ago; however, I have started to think that bringing in the Oklahoma schools, Texas, and TCU (screw Baylor) could be the best play. Gets the conference in the CST zone and the TV deal gets ridiculously good.

    Not sure why I am considering getting Texas involved again... I hated them with a passion and was glad to ditch em.


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  5. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    Absolutely not.

    No texas. No association with that conference killing university please.
     
  6. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    How much did bailer's lobbyist cost?
     
  7. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    How does TCU drop from 3rd to 6th after winning a game by over 50 points?
     
  8. MiamiBuffs

    MiamiBuffs Wᴉɐɯᴉ qnɟɟs Club Member

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    The Texas haters will hate on this idea. Unfortunately for them it would deliver the Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio TV markets and those really really move the needle for the Pac12 Network.

    And its Ad rates.

    And each member schools revenue.

    Which means a unanimous vote to make it so.

    Its not likely to ever happen because, like last time, UT will not concede certain things (like all the power and their TV channel) to Larry Scott. Though they might concede if BlowU and their cousin and one other Texas school goes along. Hate as you might I wonder if a TCU Baylor Oklahoma Oklahoma St arrangement could be reached. I could see UT possessing the hubris to think they could go it alone as an independent...
     
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  9. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    They didn't play anyone out of conference
     
  10. BuffsNYC

    BuffsNYC Uptown Club Member

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    Thankfully, Texas will never agree to the Pac's network structure and the Pac will never agree to Texas' constant demands for special treatment. Neither would Texas agree to be in a conference where the UCs, Stanford, and USC have the upper hand in nearly every measurable dynamic.
     
  11. CUBUFF80

    CUBUFF80 No Stinkin' Title Club Member

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    Has Ken Starr begun his investigation?
     
  12. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    Baylor played no one OOC. TCU had a win over top 25 Minnesota.

    But the committee finally pulled their head out of their buts and recognized that Baylor beat TCU.
     
  13. BuffLuKe

    BuffLuKe Club Member Club Member

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    Tcu beat Minnesota worse than Blowhio St. I think? Thing is tho, they should blame themselves, they had Baylor beat. They choked their ass off late and lost. Baylor would be in if they hadn't lost to WV. They lost by double digits, Tcu beat Wvu in a close game. Yes Tcu won by 50 but it was against Iowa St. Blowhio St. throttled Wisconsin 59-0 with their 3rd string qb. That's a statement.
     
  14. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    and the committee knew that when they had them ranked 3rd.
     
  15. MiamiBuffs

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    I think this is the likely route. If they decide to take the knee jerk reaction and do this just because they missed the playoff (meaning no gain in tv audience) then their options are not exciting.

    Geographically desirable: AFA, CSU (**** you in advance), NM, Cinncy, Memphis, Rice, SMU, Ark State, Tulsa.
    Geographically straining on smaller schools: BYU, BSU, UCF, USF, ECU

    Remember, the above list is not about TV revenue or even about prestige. Its about reaching a goal of 12 teams solely for the purpose of having a CCG. By the way, a CCG is, like a bowl game, also worth a few million additional bucks in TV revenue. UT has to realize that if they go 11-1 and without a CCG they could get leap frogged out of the playoff.

    At some point in the future the B1G, ACC, SEC are going to grow to 16 and WVU would probably get swallowed by one of them. So, the above list is really the Texas 10s future.
     
  16. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    **** Texas. **** bailer. **** the big 12-2.

    I'd propose a one week ban for the next asshole who brings up the idea of including UT in the Pac 12.
     
  17. Mr. Babar

    Mr. Babar I have no elephant books Club Member

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    The conference should look at getting to 16 with teams in the CST. If not Texas, who else? Not Baylor.

    What about Houston? That would seriously piss of Texas and also give the conference a toe hold in a top market.


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  18. Clean Undies

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    Because the Frogs don't travel as well as tOSU and TCU lost head to head against baylor. B12's motto is something along the lines of "one true champion."

    Baylor loves playing the victim card while minimizing their own responsibility in this playoffs snub.

    BU cursed themselves with the gooey OOC that included cupcakes SMU, Northwestern State (Louisiana), and the University of Buffalo. The U of Texas has NOTHING to do with Baylor's own limp dick OOC. Had Baylor nutted up to schedule and beaten some mid level or better SEC, B1G, or P12 school, they could have averted this drama. Baylor could not afford to lose to an unranked WVU and simply rely on the 9 game B12 schedule that does not include a CCG to get a chance to play for the title.

    Baylor potentially curses themselves again in 2015 with an other pathetic OOC shedule including @SMU, Lamar (Beaumont, TX), and Rice. It's as if they don't even want to make the playoffs and set up an excuse to blame the system again.

    An 8 game playoffs is an unnecessary solution for Baylor and the B12 schools. To have respect without a CCG, the B12 teams require a respectable OOC schedule.
     
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  19. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    As to TCU, how many PAC 12 school looking to make a statement wouldn't beat Iowa State by 50 at home?

    If Oregon was looking to ring the scoreboard the margin could be 70 or 80.

    The only hope for TCU was at least a couple of major upsets and they didn't get them. LMFAO at the B (less than)12.
     
  20. hokiehead

    hokiehead Gobbler on the Mountain Club Member

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    I can't get the math to work here.

    Assuming reports are correct that the XII just lost $6M in playoff revenue (source). Assume they lost another $2M in revenue from not having a conference championship game. That's $8M total or < $1M per school of lost revenue.

    OK, right now, reportedly, the conference currently gets $200M per year in TV revenue. that's $20M per year per school they make. If the XII went from 10 members to 12 members, and assuming any kind of equitable split, that TV revenue goes down to $17M per school.

    In other words, this discussion is supposing the XII members are willing to give up > $3M per year each in hopes of bringing in <$1M additionally?

    Bottom line: seems to me if the XII upgraded their non-conf schedule they could fix the SoS issues that kept them out of the playoffs without giving up the additional revenue. I don't see the XII as having been "punished" for not having a CCG, I see it as the other schools' SoS benefited by having an extra game against a ranked opponent.
     
  21. Mr. Babar

    Mr. Babar I have no elephant books Club Member

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    Me thinks this could compound their problem and they know it. I don't think they have confidence to run their 'second-tier' schools after Texas and OU up against a strong non-conference slate. I think Baylor/top 5 PAC 12 south teams is a push. They wouldn't be heavily favored in any of them.

    They should dissolve the B12 - should have happened three years ago. P4 with each conference champ getting into the playoff.
     
  22. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    Once again this is something the committee knew the whole time. Why do they have the playoff rankings? What is the point of them, if at the end you can just drop a team 3 spots for winning big.

    And anybody think that the playoff games will not be sellouts, even if TCU were invite?
     
  23. Bufffan68

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    Good points. If they wanted to build a strong conference, Cincy, BYU and BSU would be the choices. But I could see them going to 12 just to get a CCG. If they add lame ass teams, they'll be looking just like the ACC.
     
  24. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    This is the false argument. There's no need to go to 16 teams or to get into the Central Time Zone.
     
  25. onealcd

    onealcd Club Member Club Member

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    Actually there are a couple good reasons and a couple bad reasons.
     
  26. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

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    If Texas (or Oklahoma) were sitting where TCU or Baylor were sitting, 1) the conference would not have announced a shared title (it would have found a way to give it to UT), and 2) Texas would be in the playoff.
     
  27. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    The four teams in the playoff are FSU, Alabama, Oregon and Ohio State. Who would UT supplant?

    I think this worked out perfectly. If you have five "power" conferences, and only four spots in the playoff, somebody is going to get the shaft every year.
     
  28. BehindEnemyLines

    BehindEnemyLines beware the habu Club Member

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    Two important questions remain.


    1. How much did bailer spend on that PR attempt?

    2. Do you think they are stupid enough to hire that firm, again?
     
  29. AlferdJasper

    AlferdJasper Well-Known Member

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    One week is not long enough.
     
  30. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    I heard that A&M just claimed the Big 12 championship.
     

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