1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Thoughts on Northern Arizona?

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by shang, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. shang

    shang Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2011
    Messages:
    331
    Likes Received:
    14
    Other than the stat lines from ESPN, anyone have insight as to how this Northern Arizona team is? I did see that they are averaging over 15 assists per game...any paticular standouts? Should we be worried? I hate to see us take another team a bit too lightly like Texas Southern....
     
  2. Uncle Ken

    Uncle Ken Orr no morr Club Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2011
    Messages:
    17,403
    Likes Received:
    5,236
    They had a pretty decent offensive coordinator a few years back, no?
     
  3. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2009
    Messages:
    80,646
    Likes Received:
    16,318
    Well-coached squad that is playing above their talent level.

    Should be a team we easily handle, but they'll force us to play sound basketball. They won't beat themselves.
     
  4. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    10,186
    Likes Received:
    1,627
    They had a DB who played two sports in the early 80s....
     
  5. SuperiorBuff

    SuperiorBuff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    12,758
    Likes Received:
    1,121
    Miserable tourist trap town.
     
  6. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2010
    Messages:
    19,524
    Likes Received:
    1,610
    They were thought to be one of the bottom 15 or so teams in all of college basketball heading into the season, however, they are well coached and have proven to be better than expected. They're 4-5 (1-0 in Big Sky). They just played last night (beat Montana State) and face Montana tomorrow night, so they're going to be tired heading into Boulder. That said, this is one team that won't be intimidated by our altitude. Buffs should win handily though. Be nice to have a game where our offense really puts up some points.
     
  7. RumblinBuff

    RumblinBuff That one blogging guy Club Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    1,327
    Likes Received:
    241
    One of my enduring memories of the Tournament from my youth was from 1998, when a scrappy NAU squad took power Cincinnati to the wire as a 15 seed on the same day that Valpo and Bryce Drew upset Ole Miss. That's all I got.

    BTW, the coach of the Lumberjacks in 1998? Current UCLA head coach Ben Howland. Mind blown.
     
  8. WizzersGhost

    WizzersGhost Banned BANNED

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2012
    Messages:
    1,492
    Likes Received:
    56
    They play a lot of guards, so they're going be short and deliberate. Their coach spent time with the Nuggies as a scout and practice coach, then went to assist at Memphis. Should be a fun game.
     
  9. buffedup

    buffedup Cooler than a Popsicle Stand. Club Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2006
    Messages:
    7,577
    Likes Received:
    843
    I'm a little nervous that the Daily Camera is reporting that Boyle is planning on getting the bench more minutes against them. I don't want another Texas Southern. Get the blow out underway then get the bench some minutes.
     
  10. Andy Smith

    Andy Smith New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2012
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Pretty decent team.
     
  11. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2005
    Messages:
    10,560
    Likes Received:
    1,548
    I firmly believe Tad is willing to throw a game like Texas Southern or Northern Arizona in order to get the team to grow up a little bit. Honestly, blowout bench minutes don't work as well. The team needs to feel the pressure of a real game situation, so I'm good with Tad's plan.
     
  12. BehindEnemyLines

    BehindEnemyLines beware the habu Club Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    14,580
    Likes Received:
    917
    I am a bit leery of this game. Stephen F Austin just went into Norman and beat a decent boomer team. Can. Not. Overlook. NAU.
     
  13. RumblinBuff

    RumblinBuff That one blogging guy Club Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    1,327
    Likes Received:
    241
    I don't think you need to lose to learn those lessons. I don't think Tad will allow his team to lose either of these two games, bench, or no bench.
     
  14. WizzersGhost

    WizzersGhost Banned BANNED

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2012
    Messages:
    1,492
    Likes Received:
    56
    No need to "throw" anything. Just have your kids play and work on things they need to work on, like TOs and boxing out, while rotating down to your 8th and 9th guys on a more regular basis.

    They simply need to play like they did in Charleston, to win both these games. KU was the lesson well-administered and that blow-out was more a result of a scheduling trap: a well-rested, well-practiced KU squad. CU catchs them in a regular schedule mode, coming off two-three days between games, and its a 8-10 pt. game, either way.
     
  15. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2009
    Messages:
    80,646
    Likes Received:
    16,318
    I agree with others here. Tad's willing to add risk in these games to accomplish some things, but when it comes down to it if it's necessary then his best 5 will be playing the last 8 minutes of the game. I'm sure he does believe, though, that if you're a scholarship player at CU you should be a better player than anyone on the court for NAU. Therefore, he should be able to mix any lineup together and not get beat in this game.
     
  16. NashBuff

    NashBuff CSU Knob-Slobberer

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2009
    Messages:
    3,909
    Likes Received:
    57
    As a Big Sky observer, it seems to me that NAU would be one of the better Big Sky basketball programs out there.
     
  17. shang

    shang Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2011
    Messages:
    331
    Likes Received:
    14
    so i started this thread to kind of flesh out as to the caliber of team we are playing and obviously hoping for lots of reassurance... but now i'm more confused and concerned w/ this upcoming friday's game, lol....
     
  18. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2009
    Messages:
    80,646
    Likes Received:
    16,318
    PG - 6'0" Saldivar is a heady senior who goes about 2/1 with assists to turnovers. 5.9 pts, 3.5 asts, 4.0 rebs. Doesn't shoot much but is a good shooter if left open. Think Nate Tomlinson. His minutes are down a bit from last season because NAU landed an excellent freshman, Russell, who is leading the team in both scoring & assists. About 80% on FTs for his career.

    PG2 - 5'11" Russell is an impressive freshman who averages 17 points & 4 assists. Plays over 30 minutes a game. About 88% from the line and a good 3 pt shooter.

    SG - 6'2" Rogers is another senior who is 2nd on the team in scoring at 15.8 and also gets over 2 assists per game. 89% on FTs and a good 3pt shooter.

    F - 6'8" Jacobson is a junior who averages about 8 points a game and is 2nd on the team with 4.7 rebs. Gets about a blocked shot per game. High percentage shooter (put backs and the like) who doesn't get to the line much and isn't very good when he gets there (56%).

    F - 6'6" Brewernick is a soph who puts up a little over 7 points a game and leads the team with 6.1 rebs. Not much of a shot blocker and, like Jacobson, is a high percentage shooter who doesn't get to the line much. Under 50% on FTs.

    Main bench player is senior 6'0" guard, Dunn. Pretty much the same player as Saldivar, with Saldivar a bit better (3.5 apg to Dunn's 2.6 apg).

    After that are Hamilton (6'5" Frosh G/F), Martin (6'7" Frosh F) and Ekanem (6'7" Sen F). None of them play more than 15 minutes a night or does a lot of damage when in. Hamilton's the most dangerous (put up 11 against Zona), but he didn't play in their last game so I'm not sure of his status.

    Most impressive thing about NAU is that they share the ball well and play smart basketball. Each of the 5 guys I mentioned is averaging at least 1 assist per game.

    Biggest liability with NAU is that they lack height and can be dominated on the glass. Very much a guard-dominated squad.

    Basically, they'll slow it down, move the ball well, make open shots, avoid turnovers, and make their FTs if it comes down to that at the end of the game. Type of team that the Buffs should be able to roll if we're playing aggressive basketball. Also the type of team that could make us pay if we aren't defending or attacking the glass.
     
  19. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    48,482
    Likes Received:
    4,485
    Looks to me like they should be susceptible to a strong inside game. Jelly needs to go to town.
     
  20. 89BUFF89

    89BUFF89 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2009
    Messages:
    1,519
    Likes Received:
    142
    Want to see us dominate these guys so our bench can get some quality minutes.
     
  21. shang

    shang Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2011
    Messages:
    331
    Likes Received:
    14
    thx 'nik, very nice synopsis...
     

Share This Page