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Top 25 & Other Hoops Games - Week 13

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Shldr2Shldr, Feb 1, 2016.

  1. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    Coaches Poll
    1 UNC
    2 Oklahoma
    3 Maryland
    4 Villanova
    5 Xavier
    6 Kansas
    7 Iowa
    8 TAMU
    9 UVA
    10 MSU
    11 Providence
    12 UWV
    13 **** Baylor
    14 ISU
    15 The U
    16 Purdue
    17 Oregon
    18 Louisville
    19 Kentucky
    20 UofA
    21 Indiana
    22 Wichita St.
    23 South Carolina
    24 Dayton
    25 St. Mary's

    Votes: Pittsburgh 42; Duke 27; Utah 21; Michigan 19; Notre Dame 17; Southern California 16; Virginia Commonwealth 16; Gonzaga 13; Butler 8; Monmouth 8; Valparaiso 8; Texas 7; St. Joseph's 5; Florida 4; California 3; Clemson 2; Alabama at Birmingham 1; Seton Hall 1; Washington 1.

    AP Poll
    1 Oklahoma
    2 UNC
    3 Villanova
    4 Maryland
    5 Iowa
    6 Xavier
    7 Kansas
    8 TAMU
    9 UVA
    10 MSU
    11 Providence
    12 SMU
    13 ISU
    14 UWV
    15 Baylor
    16 Oregon
    17 The U
    18 Purdue
    19 Louisville
    20 Kentucky
    21 Wichita St.
    22 Indiana
    23 Arizona
    24 Dayton
    25 South Carolina

    Receiving Votes: Saint Mary's 63, USC 40, Utah 33, VCU 33, Notre Dame 21, Michigan 21, Valparaiso 7, Duke 6, Pittsburgh 4, Florida 3, Saint Joseph's 1, Texas 1, Stony Brook 1, San Diego State 1
     
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  2. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Wow.
     
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  3. Gary Indiana

    Gary Indiana Club Member Club Member

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    Unreal. I hope the team lets this burn for the stretch run.
     
  4. scoob

    scoob Club Member Club Member

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    California 3 should be bolded as well. That was a 5pm ET game, Sunday, right?
     
  5. MEBuff

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    Same record as USC and Utah and a better record than Washington...this makes a lot of sense. And Cal??
     
  6. chitownbuff

    chitownbuff Club Member Club Member

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    Love it. Unless the ranking is the only thing holding students back from attending, I wouldn't mind being unranked (and the underdog) the rest of the year.
     
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  7. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

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    Will update momentarily but CU, after sweeping the Bay Area schools, has received 0 votes in either poll.
     
  8. BuffAlum2007

    BuffAlum2007 Well-Known Member

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  9. CVilleBuff

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    17-5 (6-3), 20th RPI and not a single vote. Sorry, that's completely ridiculous.
     
  10. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

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    KenPom is 51. What's the difference?
     
  11. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Ridiculous that Arizona is ranked but Utah is not. Or USC for that matter.
     
  12. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    Whoever gave CU the 1 vote last week probably made some kind of clerical error. :(
     
  13. whatthebuff

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    I don't think Wichita State deserves to be ranked either. They only have one top 50 win and they lost to USC. Why wouldn't you rank USC over them? This poll really makes no sense.
     
  14. CVilleBuff

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    If you're a Pac squad and your name isn't Arizona; prepare to be underrated. The good news is recent history (beyond 2011) seems to indicate it won't have much (or any) effect on perceptions when it comes to actual seeding. Those guys actually go in-depth and do their jobs, for the most part.
     
  15. StormTrooper

    StormTrooper Millennial Liason Club Member

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    It's unbelievable to me that three coaches voted for Cal and none for CU. I mean just completely and utterly unfathomable. It's like everyone cares that Cal and USC beat Arizona when Arizona was highly ranked but doesn't care that CU beat an Oregon team that is pretty clearly better than Arizona.
     
  16. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Honestly, RPI is stupid. I think we're too low on KP personally, but I trust it a lot more than I trust RPI.
     
  17. scoob

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    RPI is fine as an objective analysis of what a team has accomplished. It is also simple enough for coaches to understsnd and schedule accordingly and hold them accountable.

    As a predictor of future events or ranking teams in order of how good they actually are, it is worthless.
     
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  18. chitownbuff

    chitownbuff Club Member Club Member

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    Outside of the obvious ignorance, it makes you wonder how much of a factor injuries have on these polls.
     
  19. Buffalo Brad

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    Just keep winning. Wear the chip on the shoulder and take care of business.
     
  20. Goose

    Goose Hoops Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    This is a very good post and probably the one that Daaaah should read.

    I still hate RPI tough.
     
  21. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    The thing is, I don't think voters (AP or Coaches) are looking at any measure... RPI, KP, Sag, BPI, whatever. I also don't think they're looking at the other measures: record, conference standings, quality wins, etc.

    I think they go by who they thought would be good in November, who has done well in past NCAA tournaments, and who won games on national tv among or against those teams.
     
  22. BuffNative

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    Don't worry guys, if we beat Oregon and Oregon State this week I'm sure somebody will throw us a pity vote.
     
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    I'm flummoxed, flabbergasted and exasperated.
     
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  24. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    I did not expect that.
     
  25. BehindEnemyLines

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    I would love to know how many ballots are filled out by a GA or intern instead of the actual "voting coach".
     
  26. Medford M.

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    Hate KenPom. Efficiency ratings can only tell you so much.
     
  27. CVilleBuff

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    #19 Louisville knocks off #2 North Carolina at KFC
     
  28. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    There are no great teams this year.
     
  29. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    This makes no sense. I hope it fires up the team this week against UO and OSU though. Those are BIG games for us to secure a good position in the P12 tourney. But yeah, bull****.
     
  30. gone native

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    CU is playing some excellent ball, but we haven't had that "signature win" to break into the rankings. First game was the close loss to Iowa State, then we rolled until SMU, and then opened conference play with the loss at Cal.

    Beating Oregon would be huge, but this will be a tough one. We are progressing as a team, though.

    I was at the game yesterday, and the story of that game was aggressive, relentless defense. Hoping we can do that on the road this week!
     

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