Top rusher in 2009?

[Deleted member 807]

Jenny Barrenger, with over 100 Kilometers.

...I'd like for this question to remain uncertain on thanksgiving day. Based on last season, I'm partial to Speedy and Sumler. I really want Speedy to have at least one 200 yard game with multi TDs. Andi would love for Lock and Scott to be amazing.

Scott has to be the favorite.

 

[Liver]

scott's going to go for about 1500+ this year and he is going to be a freaking national star.

next year, he'll be in the conversation about the heisman.

then, he'll go pro.

the guy is the real freaking deal. he is big, fast, quick, shifty, etc. he can go around you, over you, or thru you. he is an elite back who had a rough go as a true frosh. this year, the nation will get to know mr. scott.

 

[BuffsRising]

scott's going to go for about 1500+ this year and he is going to be a freaking national star.

next year, he'll be in the conversation about the heisman.

then, he'll go pro.

the guy is the real freaking deal. he is big, fast, quick, shifty, etc. he can go around you, over you, or thru you. he is an elite back who had a rough go as a true frosh. this year, the nation will get to know mr. scott.

Then they will get to know Mister Jones! sorry, couldn't help it.

 

[BuffMania]

Are you implying Spring practice and summer drills can do enough to change the on-field results from the previous season?:smile:

I'm implying that so many people are picking Scott over Stewart because of Scott's recruiting ranking.

From what we've all seen on the field, Stewart looks like the better player. Can that change? Sure, but I'd like to see on-field results before accepting it.

 

[BuffMania]

And since summer drills are unofficial and not open to the public, and are just 7 on 7 drills anyway, how would they matter for this poll? Do you even watch CU games, ever?

I'd bet I've watched more than you. Do not mistake me not drinking the kool-aid and being realistic with not being a Buff. Don't be stupid.

 

[Deleted member 807]

I'd bet I've watched more than you. Do not mistake me not drinking the kool-aid and being realistic with not being a Buff. Don't be stupid.

People skills? I'd bet callng someone out on this board based on how much CU football you have watched is stupid.

Your Speedy vs Stewart point is well made. It wouldn't shock me if Speedy ends up with more yards. But then again, Scott has a bigger build and a year of conditioning under his belt. There is a new OL coach and some upgrade on the field, plus a new OC. With all these changes, last year is not a perfect yardstick for measuring the 09 RB performance.

 

[Buffnik]

Everyone better hope it's Scott. Speedy's a nice back and will be an absolute assassin for us as a change of pace guy and return specialist. But Darrell Scott has Darren McFaddden / Adrian Peterson type talent. We need it to show this year, because he could literally carry us to 9+ wins, the North championship, a puncher's chance for the Big 12 title, and a major bowl game.

 

[Unleash Hell]

I'm implying that so many people are picking Scott over Stewart because of Scott's recruiting ranking.

From what we've all seen on the field, Stewart looks like the better player. Can that change? Sure, but I'd like to see on-field results before accepting it.

I have seen on field results from Scott, and he showed flashes of what he can do when he was out of shape and injured. He has been the hardest worker of anybody on the team in the offseason and he will be a night and day better back this year. Scott is a special talent, one we have not had in a looooong time if ever at the position.

 

[BuffMania]

People skills? I'd bet callng someone out on this board based on how much CU football you have watched is stupid.

Agreed, It was stupid for BuffsRising to attempt to do so.

 

[BuffMania]

I have seen on field results from Scott, and he showed flashes of what he can do when he was out of shape and injured. He has been the hardest worker of anybody on the team in the offseason and he will be a night and day better back this year. Scott is a special talent, one we have not had in a looooong time if ever at the position.

Signed, Marcus Houston

 

[Unleash Hell]

Signed, Marcus Houston

Totally different. Houston had nowhere near the work ethic Scott does or all the physical abilities that Scott presents. Also Houston was damn good before his injury, Scott did not have an injury like Houston.

 

[Deleted member 807]

Agreed, It was stupid for BuffsRising to attempt to do so.

Nowainaminnit! Weren't you calling CU petty for how they handled the Josh Smith release?

It's just a message board.

 

[BuffMania]

Totally different. Houston had nowhere near the work ethic Scott does or all the physical abilities that Scott presents. Also Houston was damn good before his injury, Scott did not have an injury like Houston.

We heard last year how Scott came in overweight and out of shape. Great work ethic? I'm not sure. Of course there have been reports that his work ethic have greatly improved, but let's wait until we actually see on-field results before appointing him as being our #1 RB over Stewart.

 

[buffsyko]

Stewart, until scott starts showing some explosiveness through the line..

 

[DBT]

I had to say "other." I vote for Maria Sharapova. None of those other guys are Russian are they?

 

[7Rock]

I vote for DS.

Look at what an advantage he has.

He has the chance to run the ball on 4th down every series.

Coach just needs to put in the punt/option rugby style play, and DS can run wild or punt on 4th downs.

Now get me a beer.

 

[sackman]

Holy cheesus, if they even think about putting DS back there to punt I'll have an aneurism right on the spot.

 

[7Rock]

Holy cheesus, if they even think about putting DS back there to punt I'll have an aneurism right on the spot.

Any relation to Baby cheesus?

 

[Junction]

I vote for DS.

Look at what an advantage he has.

He has the chance to run the ball on 4th down every series.

Coach just needs to put in the punt/option rugby style play, and DS can run wild or punt on 4th downs.

Now get me a beer.

Don't know if you remember it or not, but there was a certain fake punt that almost cost us a Big XII championship against the wHorns back in 2001. So you'll probably find that most people around these parts don't share your enthusiasm for the possibility of running one of those damn plays every fourth down...

Sorry, you may have to get your own damn beer.... :smile2:

 

[7Rock]

I already got my own beer..........and I wasn`t talking about a fake punt.

Punt/Option is something totally different.

It does require a good athlete to run it. :thumbsup:

 

[SBG]

We heard last year how Scott came in overweight and out of shape. Great work ethic? I'm not sure. Of course there have been reports that his work ethic have greatly improved, but let's wait until we actually see on-field results before appointing him as being our #1 RB over Stewart.

He was finishing up an Algebra class and had to focus on his school work to become eligible. If he didn't do that he couldn't have had any PT last year. He had flashes of brilliance last year, but was not in the shape he needed to be. You could argue that this lack of work ethic in the classroom shows his work ethic, but I'd disagree with you there. Summer workouts are optional and that's why there are redshirt years. However, Hawk would have taken a lot of heat if Scott sat out a year....even though he should have, imo.

I like Stewart, I really do, but I voted Scott as our top rusher. The reason? If Scott learns his assignments and learns to block then he'll be in more often whether it's a running play or a PA pass. Given how important the PA pass is going to be for our offense he's going to get more reps. He has more upside than Stewart does because of his size. That's not a dig on Rodney, because he had some good blocks last year while Scott looked confused, but there is a reason why Sumler was in on 3rd downs. Scott will close that gap this year, but I also really liked Sumler in the NU game.

I want Sumler/Scott in with Rodney as well. Use misdirection with Sumler/Scott to go up the middle and have Stewart go on a screen. It'd be a nasty combo, at times. Again, DS has the most upside, because frankly I think we've seen mostly what we're going to get from Stewart (again, not a dig at the guy because he was the top rusher last year).

 

[BuffMania]

I still think we're basing most of our optimism with Scott on his recruiting profile. Yes, he showed flashes of great things, but Stewart showed more flashes and produced more than Scott did.

 

[SBG]

I still think we're basing most of our optimism with Scott on his recruiting profile. Yes, he showed flashes of great things, but Stewart showed more flashes and produced more than Scott did.

Scott can move the pile and I don't see Stewart, even if he is stronger, doing that just due to his size. If the opposing Ds are going to be stacking the box then we are going to need a bruiser that can break off a long run as well. Stewart can do the long run, but has trouble in the first category.

Stewart was always one guy from breaking away a long rush. Give him one more year and I think he'll be able to escape, not break, more often.

Stewart seems to have faster acceleration than Scott, but as long as our RBs don't start from a standstill 5 yards behind the LOS then I think that's almost negated when you get to the hole. To the outside I still think Stewart is our best bet.

 

[Unleash Hell]

We heard last year how Scott came in overweight and out of shape. Great work ethic? I'm not sure. Of course there have been reports that his work ethic have greatly improved, but let's wait until we actually see on-field results before appointing him as being our #1 RB over Stewart.

Scott came in overweight because he was back home finishing an Algebra course. He wasn't even working out he was so focused on getting into CU.

 

[stampy]

I don't see how so many more of you think Scott is a better back given the obvious disparity we saw last season. It wasn't even close.

The only question in my mind is whether Speedy can come back from his injury. If he is healthy and fully recovered, I think he could be the best CU RB since Chris Brown.

 

[dio]

I don't see how so many more of you think Scott is a better back given the obvious disparity we saw last season. It wasn't even close.

The only question in my mind is whether Speedy can come back from his injury. If he is healthy and fully recovered, I think he could be the best CU RB since Chris Brown.

:yeahthat:

I seriously wonder about what football games you folks were watching last year.

I'm not saying Scott won't be the most talented, but Stewart has done it, he has produced at the D1 level. Scott, regardless of excuses, hasn't... and until he does, then there is no way that Scott should be considered #1 RB.

 

[sackman]

I'm not saying Scott won't be the most talented, but Stewart has done it, he has produced at the D1 level. Scott, regardless of excuses, hasn't... and until he does, then there is no way that Scott should be considered #1 RB.

So, if I understand you correctly, what you're saying is:

I voted Stewart. If you want to be the man, you got to beat the man. Stewart is the man.

 

[Duff Man]

I am not basing my predictions of Scott off of last year. He looked like a much different back this Spring. Apparently the coaches agree, seeing as how he was getting a lot of reps as the #1 back. In the end, both Scott and Speedy should get a lot of carries. Question is if Sumler or Lockridge are going to be much of a factor IMO.

 

[buffsyko]

I am not basing my predictions of Scott off of last year. He looked like a much different back this Spring. Apparently the coaches agree, seeing as how he was getting a lot of reps as the #1 back. In the end, both Scott and Speedy should get a lot of carries. Question is if Sumler or Lockridge are going to be much of a factor IMO.

Sumler runs hard , the way scott needs too. Hagan has shown he'll put anyone in there. Hopefully in the first 3 games all 4 rb's have a chance to get reps :smile:

 

[Liver]

the question is "who will be the top rusher in 09"?

NOT "who was the best rb LAST YEAR?"

NOT "who has the most demonstrated success from last year?"

scott showed us brief flashes of what he is capable of last year. i think you guys are really underestimating his raw physical talent. he is, imho, the most gifted rb prospect we have had since at least the early 70s. yeah, i said it--- his prospects are better than brown, salaam, eb, all of them...

now, there is a huge difference between POTENTIAL and PERFORMANCE. those of you hung up on speedy (who i think did a great job last year) are focusing on previous performance. i believe that, if he stays healthy this year, scott is going to be a very, very special player for us. there are very few guys with the kind of inside power that he is who still have the speed to take it to the house on every play. he is a rare talent, guys.

potential doesn't always translate to success... i understand this. but, i am going to go ahead and predict that in this case it will.