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USC's HC Plans (Sark to USC)

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  1. boydbuff

    boydbuff Club Member Club Member

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    I know we have the standard coaching thread but it USC seems worthy of their own thread about what they are going to do-not just b/c they are USC but they are in our division and we'll be playing them every year.

    I was wondering if they may consider keeping Orgeron since they are playing much better under him. But the latest from today is that USC is prepared to pay $6m to bring in a big name coach. SBNation is still calling Sumlin their top candidate.

    http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...2/usc-football-coach-search-salary/in/4563371
     
  2. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    They're definitely playing better under Orgeron, but I see no way they go with him as their HC. They have big plans, and those plans don't include a guy that sucked beyond belief at Ole Miss.
     
  3. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    A&M will match. Didn't they just start renovating Kyle Field? Didn't they make like 700M in donations last year?
     
  4. boydbuff

    boydbuff Club Member Club Member

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    Could be more than just salary for Sumlin though. JF is surely gone at the end of this year and it is hard to believe they don't have a drop next year, potentially lowering his stock for a better college or NFL job.

    USC is one of the top 5 most attractive jobs in all of college football. That opportunity doesn't come around all the time. He can get the cream of the crop recruits in SoCal and beyond at USC whereas he has steeper competition in TX
     
  5. JimmyBuff

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    Bob Stoops to USC
     
  6. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    Sumlin may want the job. As mentioned JF is gone after this year and Sumlin seems like he has a pretty healthy ego. aTm will always be second in Texas to UT no matter what UT does and competing in the SEC without Manzel will be a challenge.

    SC puts him in the middle of the second biggest media market in the country at the school that is #1 in that market. Any decent recruiter shouldn't have any problem recruiting all the talent he needs to win to SC.

    Aggie will match, likely even offer more but it would be tough for him to turn town SC.

    I don't see Stoops going there, just not a good fit either way. A lot of the same things that apply to Sumlin would apply to Stoops but I don't see close to the mutual attraction.

    Orgeron was a distaster at his prior HC job but he seems to be very different and getting great results. I keep getting a feeling that in the end they might wish they had hired him instead of whoever they do end up with.
     
  7. cmgoods

    cmgoods Olympic Sports Mod Club Member

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    I hear there's something between Sumlin and the A&M AD that may make him want to leave, but I have no idea what.
     
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    Sumlin is a 6 million dollar coach? He's won how many conference championships?
     
  10. Mick Ronson

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    Sumlin won at Houston with Art Briles guys, and at ATM with Jonny MFF.....and the usual ATM underachieving top 25 classes....

    he might give it a try at USC. but he's never won a game with defense. Orgeron recruits well but sucking at Ole Miss is no way he gets the USC job. unless this was after Paul Hackett. however, they DID hire Lane Kiffin....which was amazingly bad.


    i doubt Stoops to USC had much traction. he's a midwestern guy with kids in school.
     
  11. Mick Ronson

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    Texas and USC on the market....interesting year on the Carousel. though, Mack is back after beating OU.
     
  12. MtnBuff

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    He's the current "big name" that a place like SC has no choice but to hire.

    I can't think of a lot of college guys who would be acceptable to the SC donors other than a Sumlin who might consider going there. Their boosters aren't going to be happy if they get somebodies coordinator or a guy from a "small school."

    If they don't go with Sumlin it is very likely that they go with a guy coming from the NFL.
     
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    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    USC's HC Plans

    I think they get an NFL retread and hope they catch lightning in a bottle like they did with Carroll. Someone that is an assistant OC that used to be a HC.
     
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    I don't think he'd be a good choice. Therefor I'm all for it.
     
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    Heard Del Rio being talked about some but I really haven't paid alot of attention.
     
  16. Duff Man

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    Kinda surprised Pep Hamilton's name never comes up in these conversations.
     
  17. BuffaloChuck

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    A&M received $730 million last year in DONATIONS. One year's donations.

    You think USC can show anything within a TENTH of that? A&M can. Er. A&M HAS.

    Sumlin's far closer to a national championship with an East Coast-based TV schedule than Pac-12's late-night leftovers. They're just another credit-card away from another big football scandal, too.
     
  18. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    aggy will probably finish top 10 in back-to-back seasons for the first time in forever. And all it will net them is a third place finish in their division and the Cotton Bowl. How close is that really to the national championship?
     
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    As long as ags are a one-person one-dimensional team, it appears not very close. After all, look what Auburn did with their one player Cam Newton team. Seems like there was another 1-player team that won a national champ in 2005, too. It happens. As long as coaches let 'em go and play their style, I guess it can happen again.
     
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    I don't know if you're serious, but those numbers aren't true. Last year the top 4 schools for donations were Stanford-1 billion, Harvard-650 million, Yale-544 million, USC-492 million.'

    http://www.dailynews.com/general-ne...-at-no-4-nationally-as-overall-donations-rise
     
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    I think it was announced after that article. Either way for the guy who said USC couldn't raise a tenth of A&M is kind of ridiculous.
     
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    That would be a move up for Sumlin.
     
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    Looks like total donations:

    The figure captures the period between Sept. 1, 2012, and Aug. 31. The $740-plus million includes approximately $97.5 million in private grants to the Division of Research, $351 million to the Texas A&M Foundation, $14 million to The Association of Former Students, $6 million to the George Bush Presidential Library Foundation and $271.5 million to the 12th Man Foundation, the latter of which is hosting a herculean effort to finance a $450 million upgrade to Kyle Field.

    http://www.theeagle.com/news/local/article_82266d1a-11c0-543b-b75a-4c3613357abe.html
     
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    I wasn't sure and too lazy to look too hard. But, I do know that they are trying to raise 6 billion total and have already raised 3 billion over the last 3 years.
     
  27. BuffaloChuck

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    Like I said, USC Football didn't raise ONE TENTH of what A&M Football did in ONE SEASON. One Heisman Season. The Trojan's football history has obviously more shine than a few late '50s victories, but the East Coast TV Time is bringing in revenues that no West Coast program will match. And all that history means nothing with tomorrow's spending and revenue generation.
     
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    USC's victory of Stanford last night shows Orgeron may still have a shot at this job. If not he sure is improving his HC candidacy for other openings!
     
  29. boydbuff

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    Looks like I am not the only one suggesting Orgeron may have earned the position:

    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/coll.../ed-orgeron-only-choice-pat-haden-usc-trojans

    This quote is interesting b/c it reminds me of how HCMM is doing things in Boulder:

     
  30. Buffenuf

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    Orgeron would be the smart move at this point---he's shown that he's grown and learned from his debacle at Ol 'Miss. He's also one heck of a recruiter.

    If CU is lucky, Haden will go "Hollywood" on this choice, going for the big name/hot prospect HC, rather than stick with Big O. Haden's choice of Kiffin and Men's BB choice sorta point in that direction. Better for the Buffs with Orgeron elsewhere than the PAC 12; unless he's named MM's Assoc. HC???
     

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