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Water is wet, Pope is Catholic...

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Duff Man, Mar 31, 2011.

  1. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    CU special teams struggling.

    Ugh. Sounds like Castor and Grossnickle have been inconsistent this spring and the snapping has not been very good. Nik mentioned this a couple weeks ago, but it does not seem like the issues are going away because it was mentioned in the DC yesterday.

    Is there a solution here?
     
  2. RK

    RK UBL Club Member

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    Darragh O'Neil
     
  3. Rraalph 3000

    Rraalph 3000 Well-Known Member

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    End of the day....kickers are still kickers, and if they weren't worth squat before, not much a coach is going to be able to do to improve that drastically

    Grossnickle was probably the worst punter I've ever witnessed....so even a slight improvement would be noticable
     
  4. Buffellow85

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    When does Will Oliver arrive on campus?

    If he can work with the special teams over the Summer, we might have anther option at PK
     
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  5. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Alferd has the answer.
     
  6. NW Buff

    NW Buff Club Member Club Member

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    Weren't both of these guys pretty good kickers in HS? How does a person go from being able to kick to not being able to kick or was that all just recruiting hype?
     
  7. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Which makes the signing of Justin Castor a bit odd in retrospect. If you look at his high school stats, they do not blow you away. He was 28 of 46 for his career (13 of 22 his senior year). While he did make several longer kicks (40+) in high school, the overall percentage sends up a red flag. If anything, he seemed to excel more as a punter/kickoff specialist.
     
  8. The Monk

    The Monk Club Member Club Member

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    I dunno water makes you wet but I don't know if it is wet itself.
     
  9. BUFFS14

    BUFFS14 Well-Known Member

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    Were these guys kicking off tees in HS? Difficult adjusting to kicking off the ground?
     
  10. JRK1212

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    Will Oliver
     
  11. leftybuff

    leftybuff Iconoclast Club Member

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    You forgot a bear ****s in the woods....
     
  12. Buffellow85

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    If a tree falls and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
     
  13. 96 Buff

    96 Buff Resident Commie Bastard Club Member Junta Member

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    Considering that the special teams were, by far, the worst unit on a team full of ****** units from last year, I think we'll need more time for them to make improvements. Also we simply don't seem to have the talent here that exists elsewhere on the team that propoer coaching can utilize. Unfortunately, we'll have to wait this out.
     
  14. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Need a frosh to step up, and from what I saw at practice, teh biggest problem with punting was the snapper. He is just not getting it done. Its not the technique, its the fact that the snapper is a head case. That can be fixed easily with a new snapper. As far as castor... I don't think he is a div 1 kicker.
     
  15. Heywood

    Heywood The actual El Guapo Club Member

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    does the pope **** in the woods?

    does a fat baby sweat?
     
  16. BUFFS14

    BUFFS14 Well-Known Member

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    I think the kickers are head cases as well. They have the legs to kick. Between the ears can be fixed, if they had a coach to fix it.
     
  17. SCB

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    Yes. Same sound the goal post makes when Goodman dings it.
     
  18. SCB

    SCB Well-Known Member

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    Do birds fly upside down?
    Does peanut butter come in cans?
    Why aren't there bones in ice cream?

    All these questions make my head spin. Calgone, take me away.
     
  19. SINKRATZ

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    It's hard to teach kickers to kick it straighter or punters to punt it farther - as others have mentioned it may just be the case that the talent isn't there for Embree and crew to work with.

    You CAN however improve the performance of coverage and return teams through coaching and this is where I expect to see some real improvements this year.

    We may still miss way too many field goals and shank way too many punts, but our punt and kickoff units MUST be better than the monkey s**t fight we witnessed the last few years.
     
  20. bbads

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    UBL is right.

    darragh o'neill
     
  21. sackman

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    :lol:

    That's funny.

    Special teams has been a concern of mine since Mason Crosby graduated. It's gotten progressively worse every year, unfortunately. I don't have a solution, but I know it needs to be fixed. We're giving up way too much in terms of points and field position to crappy special teams. Hawkins clearly didn't give a damn about it. Embree apparently does care about it, but there may not be much he can do, at least with the kickers themselves. You're right, though, when you say we can improve coverage and returns. We damn well better improve there or we're in a world of hurt.
     
  22. BUFFS14

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  23. SuperiorBuff

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    You must be forgetting Nick Pietsch, the onsides punter.
     
  24. RK

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    He was lucky to hit post
     
  25. Rraalph 3000

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    That's only true to a certain extent....Unfortunately it becomes very very difficult to cover a punt or kick, no matter how much you emphasize it, if your Kicker is still only kicking line drive short balls
     
  26. GregInArlington

    GregInArlington Well-Known Member

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    Goodman had more posts on a gameday than BCS.
     
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    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I hope so. But we have been here before.
     
  29. SCB

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    That's a butt load of posts. FACT!
     
  30. Scotch

    Scotch Registered User Club Member Junta Member

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    I might regret asking this, but can it really get any worse than Goodman? Even Brougham was better.
     

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