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Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by SBG, Oct 11, 2015.

  1. SBG

    SBG Formerly known as EFNMB Club Member Junta Member

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    never really been a bball fan. I went to a few games last year and was a total homer.

    What are good places to read up on stats, strategies and tactics for the college game?
     
  2. torerobuff

    torerobuff Dancing is forbidden Club Member

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    Not going to really get you caught up on the modern game, but A Season on the Brink by John Feinstein and John Wooden's They Call Me Coach are essential reads for the college basketball fan.
     
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    jgisland Club Member Club Member

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  4. Buffenuf

    Buffenuf massive tool

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    Just keep going to the games! Cheer for the Buffs! Drink beer! Watch the Dance Team!

    Who cares about all that stat crap, unless you're an engineer or math geek?
     
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  5. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    @EscapeFromNMBuff -- with the advanced stats everyone seems to like, I think it's important to point a few things out.

    First, the stats that we usually see (such as on the ESPN team page) like rebounds per game are pretty much meaningless. They don't take into account the pace of play.

    So, when looking at basketball stats, what you want to look at is how the team does per possession -- offensively or defensively. That will tell you how efficient a team is. Then, you stack on that whether the team is plus or minus on possessions (i.e., if it doesn't turn the ball over, has a high defensive rebounding percentage, has a high offensive rebounding percentage, and/or gets a lot of steals... then the team is gaining possessions on opponents).

    Next, you should care about the Effective Field Goal Percentage and you shouldn't give a flying **** about basic shooting percentage. At its simplest level, shooting 33.3% from 3pt range is equivalent to shooting 50.0% from 2pt range (true shooting percentage comes from that). At the next level of complexity, the eFG% brings in foul shooting. Some guys/teams get to the line while some do not. Some make them when they get there while some do not. eFG% is the key driver of both offensive and defensive efficiency, modified by turnovers and rebounding.

    (Which brings up another point -- getting to the line is a hell of a lot more important to generating points per possession than shooting a high percentage. Percentage is pretty much inconsequential as long as the team is within the normal range of attempts per game. Obviously, the caveat is that this is something that's true over the course of a season but within a single game a bad night from the line could be a big deal that causes a team to lose.)

    Last, I'll bring up "Tadball" in relation to the above.

    What does he emphasize? (You are what you emphasize.)

    1. Rebounding. Tad hates giving up extra possessions and loves those extra chances on the offensive end.
    2. Defense. Tad's teams, when playing defense like he wants, do not foul and force a low true shooting percentage. Not much gambling, so with less fouling comes fewer steals. Idea is to man up, be in the grill of the offensive player, and force him to make shots with a hand in his face.
    3. On offense, it's not about pretty motion and back cuts. Tad wants to attack the rim either through feeding the post or dribble-drives. He also wants guys who can knock down 3pt shots off of that action. He's less about making the extra pass and more about being aggressive -- taking the open shot when it's there.

    Last season, I'd argue that the team didn't do any of these things all that well. Certainly not up to the normal standards of Tadball. Most glaring was the lack of someone at the guard position who could be a defensive stopper, add something to rebounding and get to the rim (and get fouled or finish). Based on that, I'd say that Dom's development and Fortune's arrival are the big keys to watch this season. Their ability to do what was missing last year -- which Tad's teams had alway done with Corey Higgins, Carlon Brown & Spencer Dinwiddie (among others) -- will determine whether this team is going back to the Dance or not.
     
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  6. FrankRizzo

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    Yes
     
  7. ShockerHoops

    ShockerHoops Well-Known Member

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    THANK YOU.

    What a simple but great site. I've never even heard of it. A million thanks.
     
  8. Scotch

    Scotch Registered User Club Member Junta Member

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    @jgisland - Don't see anything under 'Then read/buy this'

    Love the Hoops Math site!
     
  9. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    "Basketball on Paper" by Dean Oliver
     
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  10. Scotch

    Scotch Registered User Club Member Junta Member

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    Thx!
     

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