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Why have we never done this for the OOC?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Goldenbuff12, Aug 21, 2007.

  1. Goldenbuff12

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    I've always wondered why the Buffs haven't had a "Front Range Out of Conferance Schedule" year. It would look somthing like this.

    UNC
    Air Force
    CSU
    Wyoming

    It's not up to par with our usual OOC, but the teams are still solid. Heck, it would be alot more difficult than the OOC most teams play. For example, Okie State's was a complete joke last year. It would draw local appeal, and the Buffs wouldn't have to play a torturous OOC. Do you guys think this would be a good idea or do you think it wouldn't draw big enough crowds to Folsom? On the up side we wouldn't have to travel much in the OOC and the players would be fresh and ready for conferance play.
     
  2. JJBuff

    JJBuff Club Member Club Member

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    A big reason we play the big programs is for national visibilty in recruiting. The better the teams we play, the more likely it's on TV, the more potential recruits see CU, etc. Plus, it's more fun to go to Phoenix, Hawaii, Athens, than Ft. Fun, the Springs, and Laramie.
     
  3. 4DemBuffs

    4DemBuffs Most admired poster Club Member

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    why? so we can prove that we are king of the dipshits?

    give me UGA, LSU, Michigan, PSU, West Virginia....ect.....
     
  4. FlatironsBuff

    FlatironsBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Other big reason--big TV money. One of the resons we posponed the Miami game @ Miami was the fact that they were banned from TV and part of CUs contract stipulated that we got the TV money. So big games give CU big TV money, plus nationaly broadcast games give nationwide recruiting exposure.
     
  5. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    And TV revenue!!! Hard to get national exposure with a local schedule.
    I'm not opposed to rotating CSU, AFA or WYO each year on a regular basis. CU should never schedule U.No Credit. Ever!

    I'd love to see CU play at AFA some day. After taking their basketball coach from the zoomies, no reason we shouldn't kick their butts in the springs, too.

    Quite frankly, I wouldn't mind kicking ISU and KSU out of the B12n and replacing them with csu and AFA. That way we could get the odd B12 championship game in Denver.
     
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  6. Goldenbuff12

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    Our hard OOC has bit us in the butt before. I.E. 2003
     
  7. SuperiorBuff

    SuperiorBuff Well-Known Member

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    A couple of more dogbutt games with CSU and the tv revenue will dry up to the point that the game will be dropped.:thumbsup:
     
  8. 4DemBuffs

    4DemBuffs Most admired poster Club Member

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    this is the 2003 sched and results. i dont see your point. did this sched keep CU from a MNC? from a Big XII champ? or just a bowl game that would have paid CU 500K while the cost to CU to attend would have been 750k?

    (dont read too much into that, please!!! )

    splain please! :smile2:

    Sat, Aug 30 Colorado State - - at Denver W 42-35

    Sat, Sep 06 UCLA 24 - BOULDER W 16-14

    Sat, Sep 13 WASHINGTON STATE 17 - BOULDER L 26-47

    Sat, Sep 20 Florida State - 9 at Tallahassee, Fla. L 7-47

    Sat, Oct 04 *Baylor - - at Waco, Texas L 30-42

    Sat, Oct 11 *KANSAS - - BOULDER W 50-47 OT

    Sat, Oct 18 *Kansas State - - at Manhattan, Kan. L 20-49

    Sat, Oct 25 *OKLAHOMA - 1 BOULDER L 20-34

    Sat, Nov 01 *Texas Tech - - at Lubbock, Texas L 21-26

    Sat, Nov 08 *MISSOURI - 22 BOULDER W 22-16

    Sat, Nov 15 *Iowa State - - at Ames, Iowa W 44-10

    Fri, Nov 28 *NEBRASKA - 25 BOULDER L 22-31



    * Conference Games

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  9. Unleash Hell

    Unleash Hell Well-Known Member

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    3 words

    Money, TV, Recruiting

    Doing a front range OOC would be a terrible idea. 3 of our 4 OOC games are on National TV this year.
     
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  10. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    I agree for football, but I think hoops should do this.
     
  11. Unleash Hell

    Unleash Hell Well-Known Member

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    We usually do for hoops. The last couple of years we havde played csu, wyo, afa, DU.
     
  12. Goldenbuff12

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    4DemBuffs, my point with the whole 2003 thing was that if you're playing those games it's probably not good to lose 47-7 and 47-26. I don't really think that helps exposure much. Sure you get the TV revenue but what's the point? Losing games like that HURTS exposure. It's not like we would be doing it every year, I just thought it would be fun to do for one year. I also thought that it would be a great idea amidst our rebuilding process. Winning all your OOC games in times when you're trying to climb back to the top is alot better than getting your ass kicked on national TV. Look at seasons like 2002, we lost two of our OOC games that year, one of them we lost big. If the OOC would have been softer we go 11-1 in the regular season instead of 9-3. Don't you think that warrents a better bowl bid and plenty of revenue in the end?
     
  13. Unleash Hell

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    If we go with a "softer" schedule, go with programs like Houston, San Diego st, and Central Florida. Recruiting hot beds. PLaying all in Colorado would not do much even for in-state kids. In-state kids want to play teams out of the state. Guarantee we lose more kids out of state if we played an all OOC schedule.
     
  14. Goldenbuff12

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    Like I said, I think it would be a fun one year thing. Besides I think Dan is a plenty qualified recruiter.
     
  15. Clean Undies

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    IMO a 2-2 record against a top 50 teams is way better than 4-0 against bottom feeders. Let's keep it real.

    It's a joke UT has Arkansas State and Rice this season.
    Any time nU plays Troy St is an event worthy of ridicule.

    The CU - New Mexico State game a few years back was not very fun because it was so lopsided. It was poorly attended, too. By comparison, the USC game in Boulder was better attended. If you want to be the best, you should play the best.

    Leave toe nail tech to programs with lesser character.
     
  16. Goldenbuff12

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    I originally said it would be a fun one season thing. Besides those programs (excluding UNC) are usually 6-6 type teams in their respective conferences. They are much more solid than Arkansas State or Rice or Troy State. The original idea was that it would be somthing fun to get the state excited about football, and I agree that Nebraska and Texas play laughable schedules. I just think on our climb back to respectability I would much rather win some games than get humiliated on national TV annually. That's just my opinion, but I definately see what you mean.
     
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    The problem is that you are in the minority of CU fans who would like to see this. I would think there would be an outrage among the majority of CU fans.
     
  18. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    Sounds like the Mountain West Conference is the place for you to get your regional football fix. AFA, Wyo and CSU play each other every year.

    Funny how none of those matchups fill Mile High, or get the RMS billing.
     
  19. CSU Husker

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    Neither does CU vs CSU :huh:
     
  20. Goldenbuff12

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    There's no reason to be hostile.
     
  21. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

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    Half of Mile High is full of ****. The other half are Buff fans.
     
  22. AustinTxBuff

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    The problem is that the games are scheduled years in advance. So there's no way to know which year you'll be "rebuilding" to put in soft OOC opponents. And you can bet that if our athletic department had as much money as ****braska and texass coming in from alumni, gear sales, etc, we would have a softer schedule and not worry so much about being on TV and getting that revenue.
     
  23. Clean Undies

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    I'm not on-board with this rational. Seems a bit B12-centric. Would you say ND or USC have money on par with UT or nU, and also go for patsies with similar regularity?
     
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    The TV revenue is big part of scheduling these marquee OOC opponents, but putting fannies in the seats is also a big concern for us. You can be sure that Folsom wouldn't be packed if we had the directional schools coming in on a regular basis. Plus there's the big paycheck on the return end of the home-and-home series with these big programs.
     
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    We played this schedule in 1906 (less AFA but instead played Manual HS)
     
  26. 5th_down

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    Underdogs can always pull it off

    I think you dudes got a definite shot at FSU
     
  27. AustinTxBuff

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    You're right, USC does have a lot of money, and they still schedule 2 BCS schools out of their 3 OOC games. Although this year, that still means 3 patsies for their OOC :smile2:.

    As far as ND, their schedule this year includes Navy, Air Force, and Duke.
     
  28. Clean Undies

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    We kicked their butt, too. Oh, and Oklahoma wasn't a state yet.
    The TV revenues were really weak. And CSU were fhe Aggies.
     
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    As ND is an independent, you can't really claim Army. This is a traditional rivalry game that goes wayback.

    At this point, AFA is about as close to a 'conference' rival, too.
    It's like knocking CU for scheduling Baylor.

    UT makes a point of playing some real losers to the point of embarassment; n.Texas, s.Texas, Rice, Arkansas state, Louisiana Monroe, The longwhorns can afford to travel and shamefully puts some major turds on their schedule every year.
     
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    Frankly, I would like to see a four year rotation. As a fan I would revolt if we played all in one year...but I figure it would be great to rotate who got a shot at us each year. Why should the ewes be the only ones that get that chance?
     

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