Exactly. We went from being predictably bad to unpredictably bad. Unpredictably bad is much more fun to watch and gives you hope that you could beat anyone on any given Saturday.
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Will not see a starting QB named until fall (most likely)
- Thread starter Duff Man
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Exactly. We went from being predictably bad to unpredictably bad. Unpredictably bad is much more fun to watch and gives you hope that you could beat anyone on any given Saturday.
AlferdJasper
Well-Known Member
He was on the scout team, playing the part of opposing QB and with no notice, they threw him into a game with barely a glance at the playbook.
Then, as a soph, told him he didn't win the starting job and he'd redshirt, no, wait, you'll play: you are THE GUY; oh, no wait, you are one of the guys. Whatever.
I am saying that I have never been sure that Hansen got the type of support that he deserved. A lot of waffling going on.
It's early in spring ball ... I hope someone will take charge and lead this team.
Alferd is drunk. I've been to several practices and the two freshmen are NO where close to competitive for a starting job. I don't know who the guys are who "might" know, but that's not the way my eyeballs see it. Throw either into a game right now and you will have Hansen circa 2008. No thanks.
When Lobato get's the mechanics down so that he doesn't throw about every third pass into the ground, we can have an intelligent discussion. I've seen a lot of struggles and some really nice bright spots. Hirschman - same thing, but a little better.
This is do-or-die for this staff and you will see an experienced QB out there. Period.
Tyler is not getting it done. He's STARTED a season's worth of games (13) and played in a few others. He's had 2 full Springs and 3 falls to take the job from a limited, ill-equiped, short, unathletic, insert Cody shortcoming here, QB and has similar stats and winning percentage. People seem quick to make excuses for Tyler, maybe it's because they are so sick of the Dan and Cody show, but just because he isn't Cody doesn't make him a huge upgrade unless he plays better. Hell the prettiest pass he's ever made was that TD toss to Scotty in his very first game versus KSU. Where's the improvement?? Maybe he's been jerked around a little, but it's not like he's been running scout for 3 years - he's had plenty of opportunities to win the job. If you're the better QB, go win the job.
I'm hearing that Tyler is pretty much the starter and is getting the vast majority of reps with the starters (especially the OL 1s).
Like it or not, this just seems to be a philosophy of this coaching staff to want the QBs to be battling it out into fall camp.
Has this staff ever named a QB starter after the spring? Maybe Cody in 2008, but I can't remember for sure.
Like it or not, this just seems to be a philosophy of this coaching staff to want the QBs to be battling it out into fall camp.
Has this staff ever named a QB starter after the spring? Maybe Cody in 2008, but I can't remember for sure.
Your theory about the staff just refusing to name a starting QB fails due to Cody in 2008. If TH is "basically" the starter, why not effing name him the starter? FWIW, they got equal time from what I saw at the scrimmage.
Idot Buff
Guest
Exactly...not naming a starter is ****ing stupid. Tyler needs to be established as the leader of the team. If Danny waits until the fall, he will have a house divided.
The Guest
Guest
And if he does name Tyler as a starter, won't his house also be divided?
Idot Buff
Guest
Not sure....I think if he names a starter now, the guys will rally around the named leader, unless named leader is a boob.
The Guest
Guest
I don't even know why I post here. Nobody understands me...
I got it buddy. har har.
Idot Buff
Guest
No comprendo?
I think it's not that Tyler is the savior or something, it's mostly a lack of better options. I don't think anyone honestly believes Tyler is going to be flirting with the Davey O'Brien award in his career, but he certainly seems to be a much better player than Cody. Thanks to the awesome recruiting of the staff, we have exactly two options at QB, Hirschman not really counting and apparently all of the good things we heard about Lobato, well he's playing WR, so that tells me all I need to know.
I mean, you mention lack of improvement from Tyler, I thought he looked better last year than he did vs Iowa State as a true freshman, but let's take a gander at the other option. The guy has not only not improved since his redshirt freshman year, he has regressed, badly. The fact that Tyler is having trouble separating himself from Cody in practices, where Cody is notoriously good, doesn't really mean much to me. The offense last year under Cody, against beyond terrible competition, paled in comparison to the offense with Tyler running it against B12 opponents. I just don't want to pass judgment on Tyler until he is given a real chance at being the starting QB, and no, being pulled so Cody can run the 2 minute drill and attempt 8 interceptions does not count as a real chance. Let him have a full offseason practicing with the ones, let him have some fun against Toledo, CSU, and Wyoming, let him not have to worry about being pulled for the 2 minute drill, and then we will know what Tyler is truly capable of as a college QB.
Idot Buff
Guest
I am worried about Tyler's competitive fire....I remember seeing him laughing his ass off on the sideline last year, with the Buffs down 2 TDs....
The Guest
Guest
Perhaps it was precisely his competetive fire that was making him so happy.
Idot Buff
Guest
He is happy he is playing, but could care less about winning?
The Guest
Guest
Oops. My mistake. I imagined that Cody was starting in your scenario.
Idot Buff
Guest
Sorry..I was not clear...I don't remember which game it was...But was disgusted that both Tyler and Cody were yucking it up (I did mean Tyler, who was starting at that point...).
I guess I am living in the past...you know, back when Buff football was relevant on the national scene and we cared about winning.
The Guest
Guest
I actually remember that as well, and I was similarly offended.
You mean QBs on winning teams do not play leapfrog or bullfighter/bull??????
Idot Buff
Guest
Wow. I did not see that...I just saw them laughing their asses off...I think against the nubs.
It was one of the night games and it was something that is burned into my psyche. How that kind of crap is acceptable is beyond me.
Idot Buff
Guest
Let's send the tape to some of the guys who were around in the 90s...or, to coach Mac to see their reaction. That is one of the many reasons we have lost it....God, can we rewind back to 1994.....?
The Guest
Guest
If nothing else, fashion made sense back then. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go tie-die my do-rag and re-pierce my nipple.
Idot Buff
Guest
The Guest
Guest
**** yeah! Where were you? Obviously not Boulder. I guess it was more situational than fashion-related...
Idot Buff
Guest
Irving, Texass.....one fall morning down in Austin watching the Buffs kick some Longhorn ass....
Based on what? Honestly, not trying to be a smartass, but so far he's shown he can't play any better in practice, and wins games with the same frequency - maybe he's more athletic, but so is Clark Evans and he's a TE now.
I feel your pain, brother.