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Woelk: Shake up the offense! Leach to Boulder as OC?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by HotRack, Jan 3, 2010.

  1. HotRack

    HotRack Rez BubbleHead Club Member

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    http://www.buffzone.com/ci_14113995

    Interesting column. You can tell Neill's bored w/o the Buffs in a bowl. Also suggests bringing in Mines HC as OC to install the pistol or bring the triple option back.

    After watching Navy dominate Mizzery at the Texas Bowl, I'd love to see the option make a return - teams aren't built to defend/coach against it anymore. Missouri was just relying on their misguided sense that they would "out-athlete" Navy to defeat the option. Didn't work so well, did it Pinkel? And no, I'm not jumping on a Niumatalolo bandwagon.

    Anyway, fun read....Thoughts?
     
  2. Pale Ale

    Pale Ale Well-Known Member

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    Would be cool to see the pistol offense come here. I am still holding out hope that we will bring in some new assistants at some point.
     
  3. BinaryBuff

    BinaryBuff mmmm...beer Club Member

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    I'd love any of the options Woelk mentioned (or ANY change), but IMO, it's just pointless talk. I just don't see Hawk admitting things aren't working and bringing in new staff members (unless forced to by defections of the existing staff -- like Brown to AZ)
     
  4. ThndringHerd

    ThndringHerd Well-Known Member

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    Woelk's right. Big Dan needs to do something. What little I remember of the early Mac days was pretty much covered here. Wholesale staff changes until he got the right guys. Of course we all know this is the last thing Hawk will do. He's more of a 'run what you brung' and 'go down with the ship' type. Which is why we were still flopping around with Helfrich at the helm until he fired himself right after spring drills last year.

    Woelk does contradict himself, some. Hiring Leach and installing a triple-option are polar opposites. I think he's right that the TO is back in style. Until everyone starts lining up in the 3-4 with 250lb ILB's and big safeties, that is. Bringing in Leach and the Air Raid right now would put us on the wrong side of the trend. That style of ball is soooooo like, 2005 (and we'll never have the horses to do it as well as OU or UT).
     
  5. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I thought the complaint was that Hawkins hadn't chosen an offensive scheme and stuck with it? Did I imagine reading that complaint on this board and others?

    Our offense finally started to "pop" at the end of last season and now people want to change it again. This makes no sense.
     
  6. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    not every defense sucks as much as Missouri. woohoo, more back the the past....because that's what Coach Mac did. maybe Alfred Williams will still be the DC once GB fires Okruch.
     
  7. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    and i wish Neill would take his own advice, resist the admonition of other Buff fans (like the internet scum), and shelf the criticism and just "be patient". :rolling_eyes:
     
  8. JimmyBuff

    JimmyBuff Well-Known Member

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    Woelk continues to embarrass himself after each column.. I rather watch paint dry on the wall than read another absurd column from Woelk. Leach as an OC under a loser Big 12 coach in Talkins? Are you kidding me?


    But to continue in fantasy land, here's another way to change the offense: FIRE TALKINS and bring in Mike Leach as HEAD coach..
     
  9. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    100% correct. Hilarious column. Hey, we have had no offensive continuity since Hawkins has been head coach, so let's completely change the offense now! If they make any of the moves Woelk is suggesting, you might as well say Hawkins will be the coach for the remainder of his contract. That will go over well.

    Beyond that, he expects the Buffs to offer Leach a 3-year/$3 million contract. In this climate? With what money?

    He also thinks there is no reason the offensive line could not "adapt relatively quickly to the switch". Say what? Are we talking about the same offensive line that has had several different position coaches and has worked with several different systems already?
     
  10. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    well, like i've said many times. i'm sure the triple option (and the hurry-up, and the single wing, and the WCO) is somewhere inside "the Boise Playbook" Hawk allegedly brought with him. since that was one of the biggest lies in sports.
     
  11. CUBUFF80

    CUBUFF80 No Stinkin' Title Club Member

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    "My friends, I am Mr. Rourke, your host, Welcome to Fantasy Island"
     
  12. bombay

    bombay Club Member Club Member

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    Leach?

    Please.

    Pretty please.
     
  13. buffsyko

    buffsyko Club Member Club Member

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    Neil woelk needs a vacation, he's coming up with new gems each week. Give it a rest neil.
     
  14. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    Clemons, Darden, Ussery, Simmons, Simas, McKnight, Celestine and we're talking about going to the triple option?

    It's a mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad world I tell ya.
     
  15. Ruckus

    Ruckus Peep my words. Club Member

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    And we have an offensive line that hasn't shown they can make a strong push on running plays and we lost one of our running back to transfer and another to a position change. Everything should lean us towards a pass-happy offense next season.
     
  16. Bolond

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    Hawk needs to simply allow Kiesau to run the offense, and quit interfering. Our offense should be much improved this year with the receivers that we have, assuming that they know the playbook. I'm still concerned with running back, and think that losing Scott and Mister J was BIG, as our depth is now super thin. It would have been nice to see Sumler switch to fullback last year, as Behrens is now gone. Deehan should be a player, and our offensive line should improve. I can't stand Riddle as our special teams coach, but he hasn't been too bad with the tight ends.
     
  17. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    I think this offense needs more substitutions.
     
  18. 4DemBuffs

    4DemBuffs Most admired poster Club Member

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    absolutly! especially if the player grouping just made a big play. gotta rest them for a bit. if a player goes for 20 or more yards, he must take a break for at least a few plays.
     
  19. stampy

    stampy Well-Known Member

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    I've been making this point for 4 months!

    I still don't get why you are down on Numo as a potential replacement for Hawk (assuming we get rid of him some day.) WHO could CU possibly attract that would be better than him at implementing that offense?
     
  20. ThndringHerd

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    fify
     
  21. ThndringHerd

    ThndringHerd Well-Known Member

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    After watching Niumatololo on camera a couple times, I'm not so sure we'd want him here, either. And I'm a big fan of option football. Think Hawk's coachspeak is impossibly dense...? Anyone who can't answer the questions "what time of day is it, and how can you tell?" with specifics and stay on-point is a non-qualifier in my book.
     
  22. Hugegroove

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    I believe what Neil writes about as much as the s**t Tim Griffin publishes for espeeen
     
  23. HotRack

    HotRack Rez BubbleHead Club Member

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    I've said this before...the only connections Coach K has to bring with him are Hawaii connections and those connections aren't good!

    Now, I will say this. Give Ken about 3-4 more years at Navy doing what he's doing, where he can afford to bring an entire Navy staff with him (save someone staying behind like he did when PJ left) then it might be a good fit. Basically, Coach K has only been in the job 2 years at this point and hasn't had the opportunity to network outside the confines of Annapolis. It's much the same situation Johnson was in when he got the Navy HC job after being the OC at UHawaii. I just am not confident of his recruiting abilites against the big boys at this time as well as his ability assemble a quality staff. It took Johnson 10 years at Navy before he had the street cred to be in the running for the GT job. Ken needs a similar "aging" period before I would even want to consider him as a CU football coach.

    As far as someone else running the option better than Coach K? Aside from Troy Calhoun (same experience issues as Niumatalolo) and Paul Johnson (we don't have enough money to coax him here) I'll concede defeat. The only other person I could possibly think of would be the Nevada OC (produced 3 1000 yd rushers in same season) who runs the pistol for Ault, and I'd only support that move as that guy coming as OC - definitely not HC.

    All that said, considering the stable of WR's we "should" have next year, let's get some fun and gun going and bring in the Air Raid with Leach! I kid, I kid...although it would be one hell of a chemistry experiment to see him in Boulder. :smile2:
     
  24. Darian3Hagan

    Darian3Hagan '89 Player of the Year Club Member

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    We need to get the Pirate here under any circumstance. OC, HC in waiting whatever it takes.
     
  25. rynobuff

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    Frank Solich :smile2:
     
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    Will not happen due to fact leach is to powerful an assistant. Hawk would view him as a threat to his job.
     
  27. Sexton Hardcastle

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    This applies to just about every HC in CFB. No?
     
  28. buffs04

    buffs04 Well-Known Member

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    I would be more excited about Leach being the HC here than almost any other name I have heard mentioned.
     
  29. TheEvilBeak

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    Bob Stitt from Mines?....for a running attack????? Um..no. Next year at Mines will determine if Stitt knows how to run the ball. His Redshirt Frosh should destroy the rushing record there held by his brother if Stitt has any idea how to run the ball, or use personnel.

    He did run a good passing offense a few years back, but nothing revolutionary that CU doesn't already have the ability to do.
     
  30. CUwhit21

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    A coach who is winless against Dan Hawkins? No thanks.
     

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