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Would Barnett have won the North with this year's roster?

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  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Even with Hawkins, we had double digit 2nd half leads against Baylor, Texas Tech and Kansas. Programs like Missouri and Oklahoma have recently shown that they are very beatable. Even Nebraska got stoned at home by a bad Texas team and barely escaped a "revenge" game against a middling talented Iowa State team.

    Plus, in the non-conference schedule we have learned that Cal isn't very good at all.

    GB definitely wouldn't have been able to recruit our current roster based on the results we were seeing at the end of his tenure... but he almost always won on the field when his team had equal or better talent that the opponent.

    Would GB have won 8+ games this season?

    Would he have won the North?
     
  2. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    i still say no, but we'd win 6 or 7 and go to a bowl.
     
  3. dply

    dply Doble hoja Club Member

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    Yes, 9 or 10

    No, I think nebraska still wins the north
     
  4. buffsyko

    buffsyko Club Member Club Member

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    With Barnett, CU would be 6-3 right now. I think 8 wins would be about right.
     
  5. CenturyBuff

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    I don't know about winning the North. But I was going to post a similar thread: "What would be the record of this team with a competent coaching staff?" I believe they'd be at 6 wins now (including Baylor, TTech, KU--three games of meltdowns), and potentially could've reached 8. That, at least is something for hope: maybe the cupboard won't be that bare for the next coach, not in great shape and fully stocked, but something to work with--Richardson for sure.
     
  6. The Guest

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    This team? Even with good coaching I'm not convinced that Mizzou and especially nebraska would be W's.

    But I agree with Century, we'd be at six wins with at least one, maybe two more coming our way.
     
  7. Sexton Hardcastle

    Sexton Hardcastle Club Member Club Member

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    GB and Hawk. It's like comparing a Douche to a Turd Sammich.
     
  8. 92Buff

    92Buff Well-Known Member

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    I definitely think Gary could have gotten us to 8 wins this season, but not win the north. Gary had his faults, but he did do a good job of winning games he should win...and the weakness of the Big XII this year is a whole lot of games that we should win. (However, let me be clear that I in no way would not want him back.)

    I find it funny that the best year Hawk produced had remnants of GB's team which was not impressive by recruiting rankings. However, Gary and his coaching staff were able to coach the kids so they progressed, leaving some good experience.

    Hawk and his crew have failed the kids and shown no ability to progress them - or put them in position to win.
     
  9. CarolinaBuff

    CarolinaBuff Weekend Poster Club Member

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    I think he would've won 7 or 8 but not the North.
     
  10. rscmac

    rscmac Club Member Club Member

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    No we wouldnt have but we would win 7-8 games and be in a good bowl game.

    Gary losses his job before the bowl game but we have to let hawkins coach
    the rest of the year so cody will not be upset?. Bohn needs to grow a pair.
     
  11. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    6 or 7 wins.
     
  12. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

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    Okruch or Hank?

    if we are going to play it out....
     
  13. Darian3Hagan

    Darian3Hagan '89 Player of the Year Club Member

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    I just dont get your obsession with wins and losses, its not about that.
     
  14. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    Barney probably has us winning against Baylor, Tech, and Kansas. Not sure he would beat Missouri or Nebraska this year, but at least he'd have us ready for Nebraska. Kstate and Iowa State are iffy. I remember some dumb losses against Iowa State during the Barnett years.
     
  15. The Guest

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    The beginning of the end was the loss in Ames, 2005. Seriously, if you're playing a team named after a natural phenomenon, and that phenomenon actually occurs while you're playing them--you're pretty much ****ed.
     
  16. Darian3Hagan

    Darian3Hagan '89 Player of the Year Club Member

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    That game was crazy and their WRs were 7ft tall.
     
  17. Unleash Hell

    Unleash Hell Well-Known Member

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    6 or 7 and yes we would be in the mix for the north.
     
  18. GregInArlington

    GregInArlington Well-Known Member

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    Not 100%. But probably going into Lincoln with a shot at a share of the division lead.
     
  20. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    No way. these guys are soft.
     
  21. GregInArlington

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    We only lose because the players can't finish. Coaching has nothing to do with the game of football.




    [sarcastic font]
     
  22. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

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    yes. we would have won the north. the last time barnett had 2 nfl quality ol and a good rb and a shutdown corner or 2, he won the big 12.

    hawkins will never, ever coach again. i am not saying that this team has conference championship talent because i don't believe that it does, but it is, with proper coaching, a team that wins 7 to 9 games this year for sure.

    did i mention that hawkins and his merry band of ass clown surrender monkeys are the worst staff in the history of football at any level? my kindergarten kid could gameplan better than these d-bags. my dog could coach special teams better.
     
  23. HornBuff

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  24. CenturyBuff

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    Henderson was pretty much spot on regarding this staff:

    http://blogs.denverpost.com/sports/2010/11/07/no-adjustments-for-colorado/13864/
     
  25. JimmyBuff

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    LOL.. good point.


    I say Barnett would have gotten to 8 wins with this team.
     
  26. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

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    with good coaching we lose to cal, mizzou, oklahoma, kstate, and nebraska.
     
  27. CUFan

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    We would have been in the hunt for the North. GB's recruiting fell off at the end with everything going on, but when he had players he knew how to put them in a position to succeed. Heck we still won a decent amount of games when he didn't have much in the way of players.

    I think this team has some talent, they have just been taught so poorly they have no idea what they are doing. GB would have taught them from the beginning how to play, and by the time a lot of them were juniors and seniors (now) we would have been killing it. GB would have gotten then running game going and he would have finally had the deep threat receivers (Clemons, Richardson, Patterson) we needed back then.

    Make no mistake, Talkins and his posse have messed this thing up.
     
  28. BinaryBuff

    BinaryBuff mmmm...beer Club Member

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    Looking at the games, I'd say a Barnett coached team beats BU, TT, KU. So, we'd be 3-2 in Big 12 play with at least a shot at the North down the stretch. Probably don't win all 3 of those games though, so I'd say no he wouldn't have won the north, but we sure as hell would have come closer than we will with our current HC.
     
  29. Buffsfan09

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    I don't think we would have won the north but we would have shown better against Cal (still lost), shown better against misery (perhaps a win) and beat TT, Faylor, and KU. We would win 8 games.
     

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