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Offensive Line (O/U thread)

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The O/U for total sacks given up by the offensive line in 2014 is set at 26. Place your bets.
 
Under. I think we were at 20? last year, 9 from Nembot. We should be improved and Sefo seems to have a pretty good pocket presence
 
Under. If I am looking in the right place they only gave up 20 last year and 10 of those were C. Wood in a handful of games. Sefo was sacked 10 times the rest of the year. My prediction for under has more to do with Sefo getting the ball out quickly and avoiding negative plays than it does with the line performing at a high level.
 
Under because Sefo has a good clock. But Nembot could make it close. I really hope he improves this year. If Sefo can get a little more time, we could be much more dangerous.
 
Under. I hope by a lot. Sefo being sacked no more than 15 times would be great news for our offense.
 
Under. I hope by a lot. Sefo being sacked no more than 15 times would be great news for our offense.

11 teams gave up less than 15 sacks last year, some were really good teams, some were teams like Georgia Tech that didn't pass a ton.
 
11 teams gave up less than 15 sacks last year, some were really good teams, some were teams like Georgia Tech that didn't pass a ton.

He was sacked 10 times in 8 games against the toughest defenses on our schedule last year. That number doesn't mean that the plays weren't busted. It means Sefo is good at getting the ball away regardless. His clock could have us near 15 sacks on the year even with bad O-line play.
 
Over, but only because we're gonna have a new LT, which I think will get exploited. Put me down for 30, which is 2.5 sacks per game.
 
Over. We may be doing some more zone read plays with sefo, and him getting tackled behind the los is a sack
 
Over, but only because we're gonna have a new LT, which I think will get exploited. Put me down for 30, which is 2.5 sacks per game.
That would be a 112% decrease in the ranking (#41 to #87) and a 50% increase in sacks. I don't see that as being likely. The OL won't be worse than last year. Irwin or Callahan will the LT, Irwin isn't a bad OL, he just needs to stay healthy.
 
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Number of times I miss Gus Handler. Pick a number. I'll take the under.
Number of times I scream at Nembot (from my couch, not in person, I don't have a death wish...). Pick a number. I'll take the over.

For this bet, I'll take the over. Until we show some ability to run the ball, it's going to be difficult to protect the QB.
 
Number of times I miss Gus Handler. Pick a number. I'll take the under.
Number of times I scream at Nembot (from my couch, not in person, I don't have a death wish...). Pick a number. I'll take the over.

For this bet, I'll take the over. Until we show some ability to run the ball, it's going to be difficult to protect the QB.

But will it be so much more difficult that the sack numbers increase by at least 7?

Under - 21
 
But will it be so much more difficult that the sack numbers increase by at least 7?
Good question. I'm obviously hoping that it will be under, but right now, we're a pretty big question mark at OL. And that's without any injuries. That and an inability to run the ball so far, has me thinking it will be over. I hope not.
 
That would be a 112% decrease in the ranking (#41 to #87) and a 50% increase in sacks. I don't see that as being likely. The OL won't be worse than last year. Irwin or Callahan will the LT, Irwin isn't a bad OL, he just needs to stay healthy.

Are you going to do this every time somebody posts something you disagree with? Just curious.
 
Good question. I'm obviously hoping that it will be under, but right now, we're a pretty big question mark at OL. And that's without any injuries. That and an inability to run the ball so far, has me thinking it will be over. I hope not.

I can agree with most of that. We were lucky last year with injuries, so we need that to happen again. I still think we see a lot of progress in Nembot. I think we will be strong inside and will be able to run off of the right side and inside. I just don't see the OL being so much worse that the sack numbers increase by at least 7 this year.

Are you going to do this every time somebody posts something you disagree with? Just curious.

Isn't this a message board for the discussion of opinions?
 
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Really depends on if Irwin and Callahan are part of the mix (or even one of them), and injuries.

Without them, I don't feel like we can field as good of an O-Line as we have been doing.
With them, I have some hope, but we have very little room for injury.

I think we are middle of the pack MWC here (considering our likely starters and first 2-3 guys off the bench), with some upside to be much better.
 
What's Dylan Keeney's blocking like? The TE and RB competencies in pass blocking are going to play a big part in this. For now I'm going to take the over.
 
What's Dylan Keeney's blocking like? The TE and RB competencies in pass blocking are going to play a big part in this. For now I'm going to take the over.

I doubt Keeney is asked to do much blocking this year. He's skinny and is still new to TE, so I think he'll be split out as a receiving TE and Irwin will be used as more of the blocking TE with some occasional passes to him.
 
That would be a 112% decrease in the ranking (#41 to #87) and a 50% increase in sacks. I don't see that as being likely. The OL won't be worse than last year. Irwin or Callahan will the LT, Irwin isn't a bad OL, he just needs to stay healthy.

Kudos on the response, tini. You put some thot into it and backed it up with #'s and/or data. I'll respond in kind.

We will have either 2 or possibly even 3 new starters on the o/line. The continuity and communication required for good line play will take time to develop. This will result in some missed assignments particularly early in the season.

We won't be playing 2 non-d1 teams this year. The schedule isn't as kind, even if the ooc isn't particularly good. Add to that a csewe team that will come after Sefo, and the normal heavies in the conference who are now familiar with CU's offense, and we can expect the opposing game plans to expose our o/line weaknesses.

I mentioned the new LT in my original post - the most critical pass blocker. We will start a complete unknown, no matter who it is. Let's also factor in the RT position since last year it was a swinging gate on passing downs. I truly hope Nembot steps up. Lord knows, we need him to improve.

Put it all together and the reality is harsh, until proven otherwise. I stand by my 2.5 per game average, and sincerely hope they prove me wrong.
 
The over / under on over / under threads where Tini takes the more positive outlook then discounts any dissenting opinions is all of them, place your bets.
 
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