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Official Diamond Head Classic Thread

Buffnik

Real name isn't Nik
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Game 1: Ohio vs GWU (Mon, 12/22, 12:30pm MT, ESPNU)
Game 2: Colorado vs DePaul (Mon, 12/22, 2:30pm MT, ESPNU)
Game 3: Loyola Marymount vs Wichita St (Mon, 12/22, 9:00pm MT, ESPNU)
Game 4: Nebraska vs Hawai'i (Mon, 12/22, 11:00pm MT, ESPNU)

Game 5: Game 1 loser vs Game 2 loser (Tue, 12/23, 12:30pm MT, ESPNU)
Game 6: Game 1 winner vs Game 2 winner (Tue, 12/23, 2:30pm MT, ESPNU)
Game 7: Game 3 winner vs Game 4 winner (Tue, 12/23, 7:00pm MT, ESPNU)
Game 8: Game 3 loser vs Game 4 loser (Tue, 12/23, 9:30pm MT, ESPNU)

Game 9: Game 5 loser vs Game 8 loser (Thur, 12/25, 11:30am or 2:00pm MT, ESPNU or ESPN3)
Game 10: Game 5 winner vs Game 8 winner (Thur, 12/25, 11:30am or 2:00pm MT, ESPNU or ESPN3)
Game 11: Game 6 loser vs Game 7 loser (Thur, 12/25, 4:30pm MT, ESPN2)
Game 12: Game 6 winner vs Game 7 winner (Thur, 12/25, 6:30pm MT, ESPN2)

It's make or break for the Buffs. Need at least to go 2-1, including a 1st round win over DePaul. Otherwise, CU is going to need to do something very unlikely in the Pac-12 to make the Dance.
 
9 days. long time, no hoops. I think this is the time of year I'm supposed to pay attention to my family.
 
I almost had my wife convinced we should go to hawaii this christmas. Then she found out there was basketball there.....
 
Knowing our luck, even if we take care of our job the opposition would then **** up. We don't just need wins. We need a damn quality win or two.
 
J Scott: Effective field goal %= 56.5 | Ortg= 148.8 | Field goals attempted= 77
XJ: eFG%= 57.2 | Ortg= 115.4 | Field Goals attempted= 69
Gordon: eFG%= 64.6 | Ortg= 133 | Field Goals attempted= 41
Ski: eFG%= 45.6 | Ortg= 104.6 | Field Goals attempted= 113

It's real simple. As long as the coaching staff allows our 4th best offensive player to hog shots & not facilitate the offense then this team is going nowhere fast. Scott, XJ, & Gordon must assert themselves more consistently, no question, however they're not the guard running the offense. They can't pass the ball to themselves.
 
I would LOVE to see Gordon get more aggressive. He defers to Scott way too much in the post.
 
J Scott: Effective field goal %= 56.5 | Ortg= 148.8 | Field goals attempted= 77
XJ: eFG%= 57.2 | Ortg= 115.4 | Field Goals attempted= 69
Gordon: eFG%= 64.6 | Ortg= 133 | Field Goals attempted= 41
Ski: eFG%= 45.6 | Ortg= 104.6 | Field Goals attempted= 113

It's real simple. As long as the coaching staff allows our 4th best offensive player to hog shots & not facilitate the offense then this team is going nowhere fast. Scott, XJ, & Gordon must assert themselves more consistently, no question, however they're not the guard running the offense. They can't pass the ball to themselves.
Not bad, actually. I'm happy with Ski's #s considering he's the only guard who has played that's consistently helped the team. He's taken on a huge load this season, and is still being decently efficient - even though he's no where close to Scott's stratosphere.
 
If you think Gordon is the Buffs' 3rd best player you are a fool

It's always the people who fail at reading comprehension who resort to elementary name calling.

I listed Gordon as 1 one of our top 3 *offensive* players. His offensive rating currently stands at 133, which is only behind Scott.

That said, Gordon is tied for 2nd in win shares and is 2nd in defensive rating. If I wanted to make an argument that Gordon was 1 of our 3 best players then all of the advanced stats, along with Spencer Dinwiddie, would be on my side. But frankly, the whole team is abysmal right now & I'm not interested in praising anyone.

Only interested in talking about what needs to happen to see improvement.
 
If you don't include him in that discussion, you're a fool. I'd agree he isn't top 3, but arguments can be made.

This.

And I would say he's in our top 3 in terms of defensive players and in terms of rebounders. Offense is where I can't put him in the mix because he doesn't carry much of the load and hasn't dealt with teams game planning to stop him like Josh, XJ and Ski do. But the potential is there based on his efficiency numbers and the fact that we haven't seen him asked to do anything that he has subsequently failed at (whether it's outside shooting, posting up or passing).
 
Everyone knew at the beginning of the year our frontcourt was loaded. you putting out stats proving that isnt all that helpful. we need guards that can CONSISTENTLY get them the rock, or drive/dish to open something up. We havent gotten that (yet) though there has been flashes. It's not ski's style, but he's doing his best to do that (and I think he's doing it much better than last year) because no one else has stepped up yet. Jhop has done it a few times, and the minutes that dom has given us have been good, and xt has shown flashes as well. but...we dont have a guard that we can trust to do this yet.

Also, ski's numbers are skewed because when he's the only one willing to shoot (and make/miss, like v csu) he's got to take those shots.

Gordon's a good player, and like many others, I wish that guy would just take every single pass he gets in the low block and slam it down someone's throat. Unfortunately he's not there yet, but he will be. the guy is going to be good, and when scott leaves, I'm sure he'll stand in there and it will be like jelly never left.
 
Everyone knew at the beginning of the year our frontcourt was loaded. you putting out stats proving that isnt all that helpful. we need guards that can CONSISTENTLY get them the rock, or drive/dish to open something up. We havent gotten that (yet) though there has been flashes. It's not ski's style, but he's doing his best to do that (and I think he's doing it much better than last year) because no one else has stepped up yet. Jhop has done it a few times, and the minutes that dom has given us have been good, and xt has shown flashes as well. but...we dont have a guard that we can trust to do this yet.

Also, ski's numbers are skewed because when he's the only one willing to shoot (and make/miss, like v csu) he's got to take those shots.

Gordon's a good player, and like many others, I wish that guy would just take every single pass he gets in the low block and slam it down someone's throat. Unfortunately he's not there yet, but he will be. the guy is going to be good, and when scott leaves, I'm sure he'll stand in there and it will be like jelly never left.

This was, essentially, the point of my original post.

Ski has been taking a lot of shots before even initiating the offense. That's not the same as taking shots bc others aren't willing to although that's also happening.
 
To return to the title of this thread, it's possible that the Buffs beat DePaul, but it's not highly likely.
 
To return to the title of this thread, it's possible that the Buffs beat DePaul, but it's not highly likely.

Strongly disagree. In fact, I'd say it's possible that DePaul beats the Buffs, but it's not highly likely.

DePaul is bipolar. They have one good win (Stanford, at home). The rest of their wins are over the dregs of college basketball. Using KenPom rankings, their best win other than Furd is Milwaukee - and they're ranked 218. They're 1-3 against top 200 teams - win against Furd and losses to Lehigh and Illinois St (at home) and George Washington (away). Their defense is horrible. They can shoot lights out, but turn the ball over a lot and play fast. If we don't beat DePaul I will be sounding the alarm of concern.
 
CU will be favored in Vegas over DePaul and is favored by every computer analytics system. The spread will be around 6-8, with that spread CU should win about 75% of the time.
 
CU will be favored in Vegas over DePaul and is favored by every computer analytics system. The spread will be around 6-8, with that spread CU should win about 75% of the time.

DePaul is a decent squad. They handled Stanford easily at home, don't know what that says about Stanford but never the less, we need to bring it
 
DePaul is a decent squad. They handled Stanford easily at home, don't know what that says about Stanford but never the less, we need to bring it

Stanford is a good team, but they always turn in a few performances where you're like....wtf is going on here. I suspect this was one of them.
 
Yep. Dangerous opponent that the Buffs could beat by 20 or could pull off an upset that would cause a complete meltdown among CU fans.

Unpossible. CU fans are rocks of stability and sanity.
 
I'm hoping we meet in the championship. I hope you guys end up 2-1 with a loss to us that won't negatively effect your efforts to get in the dance this year.

My predictions:

WSU over LMU
Colorado over Depaul
Nebraska over Hawai'i
George Wash over Ohio

WSU over Nebraska
Colorado over George Wash

WSU over Colorado

But the thing about these neutral site tournaments that involve a lot of travel to exotic places... players can get sidetracked away from basketball. Jet lag plays a role, altitude can play a role. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like Nebraska losing to the rainbows just because of those issues stated. But it could happen to anyone of the teams. That's why I always get a little skeptical on point spreads with these things, no one really knows what the travel effects will have. Some teams just don't travel well. Young teams sometimes don't know how to handle it. We'll see how it goes, it should be fun.

Good luck Buff friends, I'll be cheering you guys on every game except if we meet.
 
I'm hoping we meet in the championship. I hope you guys end up 2-1 with a loss to us that won't negatively effect your efforts to get in the dance this year.

My predictions:

WSU over LMU
Colorado over Depaul
Nebraska over Hawai'i
George Wash over Ohio


WSU over Nebraska
Colorado over George Wash

WSU over Colorado

But the thing about these neutral site tournaments that involve a lot of travel to exotic places... players can get sidetracked away from basketball. Jet lag plays a role, altitude can play a role. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like Nebraska losing to the rainbows just because of those issues stated. But it could happen to anyone of the teams. That's why I always get a little skeptical on point spreads with these things, no one really knows what the travel effects will have. Some teams just don't travel well. Young teams sometimes don't know how to handle it. We'll see how it goes, it should be fun.

Good luck Buff friends, I'll be cheering you guys on every game except if we meet.

The sensible selections, but as you mention these tournaments can be crazy and I can't shake the feeling an upset happens somewhere along the line. Hawaii is dangerous on the islands for sure -- already beat Pitt this year. Nebraska has been shaky (see: loss to Incarnate Word) and of course we (CU) haven't exactly been playing great ball, but DePaul is pretty damn bad. Ohio could also be dangerous for GW. You guys got a weakling in Loyola Marymount, that's the one true lock.
 
shocker went by the chalk. Sensible, but I doubt we go through a tournament without seeing a single upset.
 
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