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NCAA D1 Council Vote this Week - Early Signing Day & 10th Assistant

Buffnik

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Just saw the big chance included in the December signing period proposal: football recruits would be able to take official visits during their junior year between April 1st and the Sunday before the last Wednesday in June. That would be huge for programs like CU that rely so much on getting out-of-state talent to campus.
 
Excellent write-up on the ins and outs of the early signing period, who it benefits, etc.

Also stated in the piece is that the 10th assistant would be slated to go active on January 9, 2018. So we know that CU will be making at least 1 coaching hire next offseason.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...signing-day-period-ncaa-rule-recruit-national
As much as I love Chidera and supposedly Taye is doing a decent job, I really hope they take the opportunity to add a strong recruiting, outside candidate for TEs and move Bernardi to an Offensive Analyst position or something.
 
Interesting to see how an early signing day affects CU. Seems like a few of our big time recruits recently ended up at CU late because other schools cooled on them or whatever. If there was an early signing day in years past, maybe Bish ends up at Stanford and maybe Shay sticks with USC.
 
Interesting to see how an early signing day affects CU. Seems like a few of our big time recruits recently ended up at CU late because other schools cooled on them or whatever. If there was an early signing day in years past, maybe Bish ends up at Stanford and maybe Shay sticks with USC.

Other side of that coin is that any of the guys who are verbally committed to other programs but don't receive a committable LOI in December are going to be totally on the market as they realize they're being slow-played. It's going to shake things up a lot, I think.
 
I wonder how this would impact recruiting sites and recruiting on message boards such as AllBuffs?
 
I wonder how this would impact recruiting sites and recruiting on message boards such as AllBuffs?

Should make April-June a heck of a lot more interesting and active with official visits happening.
 
Should make April-June a heck of a lot more interesting and active with official visits happening.

I'm for that since we don't have a spring sport worth following unless it's the women's lacrosse team.
 
Teams are going to get 80% of their signings in December, and then they can fill holes and find players that got left behind to sign in February.
 
I would think June is going to end up being a prime month for recruiting going forward.
 
I'm curious to see what, if any, of the proposed 6 rule changes will help the Buffs the most? I believe the vote is scheduled for today. Official visits rule change should help the Buffs, not sure if changing the satellite FB camps, or limitation of scholarships to 25 is that big of a deal.
 
I'm curious to see what, if any, of the proposed 6 rule changes will help the Buffs the most? I believe the vote is scheduled for today. Official visits rule change should help the Buffs, not sure if changing the satellite FB camps, or limitation of scholarships to 25 is that big of a deal.

What is the "25 scholarship" rule? We already have that. What are they looking to change? I missed whatever you're talking about.
 
ESPN's got a comprehensive list of what's being voted on: http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/19149025/why-stakes-high-ncaa-hq-week

1. Strict rules for individuals associated with prospects (IAWP)

If passed: Effective immediately, retroactive to include contracts signed on or after Jan. 18, 2017.
Need to know: Based on a similar model used in college basketball, this legislation is designed to eliminate hiring anyone associated with prospects for noncoaching positions. [i.e., CU couldn't hire a HS coach to an "analyst" job and recruit any of that coach's players.]

2. Reduction of camps and clinics

If passed: Effective immediately.
Need to know: This is a response to the proliferation of satellite camps made famous by Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh over the past two summers. A year ago, the off-campus parade of events were banned for a brief time before receiving a stay of execution from the board of directors.
Currently, camps are allowed during two 15-day periods in June or July. The new model calls for limitation to any 10 days in June (or during a calendar week that includes days in June.) Additionally, all camps and clinics must take place on college campuses, so no more staging camps at the high schools of elite prospects.This won't end satellite camps, but it will greatly limit them. If passed, there is still the option for a larger, more high-profile collection of coaches from many schools gathering in June on one campus for a mega-camp. All assistant and graduate assistants who have passed the NCAA recruiting test are allowed to work camps on rival campuses.

3. Early official visits
If passed: Effective Aug. 1, 2017, for prospects in the 2018 recruiting class.
Need to know: Under the new model, a prospect would be allowed to take official visits, paid by the school, from April 1 of his junior year through the Sunday before the last Wednesday in June.
The SEC has proposed an amendment to limit early visits to April, citing the limited academic disruption. It is, however, more difficult to pass amendments compared to the entire package. The success or failure of the amendment also will not limit passage of the proposal overall.

4. Addition of a 10th assistant coach

If passed: Effective immediately.
Need to know: The least recruiting-centric of the proposed changes, if passed, would create a 10th full-time assistant coaching spot and could lead to a slew of promotions and hires as soon as next week.
The Mid-American Conference has proposed an amendment to delay the effective date to Jan. 9, 2018, looking to eliminate budget disruptions and a trickle-down effect of spring and summer coaching changes.

5. Limitation of annual scholarships to 25

If passed: Effective Aug. 1, 2017, affecting newcomers in 2018.
Need to know: This is a move to do away with oversigning and to reduce the practice of grayshirting, blueshirting and greenshirting. If you're color-blind to these practices, don't worry, it likely won't matter much after this year.
The legislation would limit to 25 the number of prospects whose aid is initially offered in the fall term of an academic year. Current rules limit to 25 the number of prospects allowed to sign from Dec. 1 through May 31.
Central to the proposed changes, walk-ons who have not been enrolled for two years and transfers will both count against the 25-player limit. A walk-on awarded a scholarship after two or more years enrolled will not count against the limit.
A prospect whose scholarship paperwork specifies that he'll be offered aid in the second or third term of an academic year may count toward the current academic year or the next year.
The SEC has proposed an amendment that would allow a newcomer who, before participating in competition, is injured or ill -- to the point that he will apparently never again be able to play -- to not count against any limit.

6. Expanded summer dead period

If passed: Effective Aug. 1, 2017.
Need to know: The proposal calls for a dead period during the entire month of August and from the Monday before the last Wednesday of June through July 24.
The majority of this time is currently classified as a quiet period, during which time unofficial recruiting visits are permitted.
 
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Quick note on the early signing period: looks like it would be in place for this upcoming recruiting class but that the early official visits wouldn't be in place until the 2019 class.
 
The new legislation accomplishes several things:
  • It changes the recruiting calendar to allow for an early signing period in December (effective Aug. 1). Only the Collegiate Commissioners Association can create new National Letter of Intent signing periods.
  • It adds a period for official visits that begins April 1 of the junior year and ends the Sunday before the last Wednesday in June of that year. Official visits can’t occur in conjunction with a prospect’s participation in a school’s camp or clinic (effective Aug. 1).
  • It prevents Football Bowl Subdivision schools from hiring people close to a prospective student-athlete for a two-year period before and after the student’s anticipated and actual enrollment at the school. This provision was adopted in men’s basketball in 2010 (effective immediately, though schools may honor contracts signed before Jan. 18, 2017).
  • Football Bowl Subdivision schools are limited to signing 25 prospective and current student-athletes to a first-time financial aid agreement or a National Letter of Intent. Exceptions exclude current student-athletes who have been enrolled full-time at the school for at least two years and prospective or current student-athletes who suffer an incapacitating injury (effective for recruits who sign after Aug. 1, 2017).
  • It limits the time for Football Bowl Subdivision coaches to participate in camps and clinics to 10 days in June and July and requires that the camps take place on a school’s campus or in facilities regularly used by the school for practice or competition. Staff members with football-specific responsibilities are subject to the same restrictions. The Football Championship Subdivision can conduct and participate in camps during the months of June and July (effective immediately, though schools may honor contracts signed before Jan. 18, 2017).
  • It allows coaches employed at a camp or clinic to have recruiting conversations with prospects participating in camps and clinics and requires educational sessions at all camps and clinics detailing initial eligibility standards, gambling rules, agent rules and drug regulations (effective immediately).
  • It allows Football Bowl Subdivision schools to hire a 10th assistant coach (effective Jan. 9, 2018).
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources...-council-adopts-new-football-recruiting-model
 
I think it would make a lot of sense for the Pac-12 to get into the camp business. Why not have a "Pac-12 Recruiting Camp" in Las Vegas every June where staffs from each program provide instruction and get to evaluate? Would seem to be something that would benefit the entire conference and help to mitigate the reduction of camp days from 15 to 10.
 
Meh. I know MM loves camps, but 10 camp days is still plenty to accomplish what you want to accomplish.

As I said before, I think June is going to end up being a big recruiting month going forward. The players are out of school and can have the time to make multiple official visits during that month. Making most of July and August a dead period is a big help to schools like CU.
 
Meh. I know MM loves camps, but 10 camp days is still plenty to accomplish what you want to accomplish.

As I said before, I think June is going to end up being a big recruiting month going forward. The players are out of school and can have the time to make multiple official visits during that month. Making most of July and August a dead period is a big help to schools like CU.
To the bold, I wanted to clarify for folks who don't follow recruiting as closely. Currently it's a "Quiet Period", which means that coaches couldn't engage in in-person recruiting off campus but that recruits could still unofficially visit the campus. That was a major advantage for programs that are within driving distance for recruits. With a "Dead Period", on-campus recruiting is also eliminated. Big win for CU, because it should slow the roll of programs in recruiting hotbeds that were able to get prospects onto campus and committed right before the start of their senior year. One thing it does impact negatively for CU is that successful Football Team BBQ event it was hosting in late July which included invites to key recruits. It won't be a recruiting event any more and I don't see them moving it to June since it was timed to be the a week ahead of fall camp starting.
 
Speculation I'm seeing on twitter from recruiting guys is that most programs would have hired internally for the 10th assistant spot. However, with the amendment plan being what was passed (moving it to January, after the season), I think that's going to cause most P5 schools to open it up. I think G5 schools are going to get raided this January right as they're trying to re-set their boards in respect to which recruits didn't sign during the December period. (G5s are much more reliant on late commitments.)
 
Only thing I'd like to see on the early signing day is an out for the player if the HC and staff leave/get fired.
 
Apparently, Saban doesn't like the fact that he will have to honor certain offers he would normally pull late in the cycle

He's been bringing in the #1 recruiting class every year (or thereabouts). No change to recruiting rules is going to make things better for him because it can't get better. Therefore, change = bad.
 
Interesting proposals regarding transfer students...
I have no issue with this one.
Headlining the list of suggestions would be to no longer require athletes to seek permission from their current schools to contact with prospective new schools in order to keep their scholarships intact. Presently, schools can prevent transferring players from receiving financial aid at new destinations if the school does not approve of that new destination.
Might have an issue with allowing immediate eligibility for transfer students. That essentially could create an NFL Free Agency-like situation
Members discussed two models: One model would require every transfer student to sit out a year to acclimate to a new school; the other would allow all transfers to play immediately provided they present academic credentials that predict graduation at the new institution.

http://footballscoop.com/news/ncaa-considering-tinkering-transfer-rules/
 
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