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NCAA changes

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...cluding-agents-players-longer-postseason-bans

There are some good things here. Players can now come back to school if they aren't drafted in the NBA draft, which is good.

Then there are some odd things. NCAA claims they're going to be tougher on rules violators and summer circuits on the recruiting trail...okay. Players can now have agents, as long as they're NBAPA certified and become "NCAA certified"...whatever that means - hopefully not much. Agents can pay for meals and travel during the agent selection process.

If the NBA allows HSers back to the draft, the player can sign with an NCAA certified agent and enroll in school, so long as they're identified by USA basketball as a top prospect.

Big change to recruiting - recruits can now take up to 15 officials. Schools can pay for 28 officials now, up from 24. I wonder if this will go over to football too?

There's also a rule that forces schools to pay for tuition, books/fees for bball players that played for 2 years and left for the NBA, but returned to get their degree at that same school. I like this one.

A nice attempt by the NCAA... .... ...but still, **** them based on their history.
 
ah dammit - sorry man... ...I don't know how to read and started a thread on this too. I don't see a delete thread button...so... .... ...would you like to moderate and delete my thread??? :D sorry man and thanks.
 
I like everything they did. There's a lot the failed to address and this does pass the buck a bit to other entities like the NBA, but t is progress.
 
I agree it's a great couple steps in the right direction. I really like some things in here. However, I'm just skeptical on the "we're going to be tougher on violators" mantra. Okay, so what are you going to do NCAA? You mean, if a school is caught paying a kid they'll be banned from postseason play, meanwhile a program whose coach covered up a murder and a program that directed players to take fake classes and not get educated, were not punished??? I'm ****ing jaded with the NCAA, and wonder what the best solution is for the athletes and education. Do they need to coexist? Should they? I'm not sure either way to be honest. I do really value the notion that a gifted kid from an underprivileged background can be blessed with higher education to further his future life through sports. I think that's a fantastic notion... ...maybe fanciful in this day, but I wish it weren't.

But yeah...good job by the NCAA at least doing something today.
 
Daaah said:
Who decides who elite HS players are? Seems arbitrary.
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USA Basketball ratings, I believe.

That is the major drawback of this. And, frankly, I think it opens them up to litigation to allow some people to hire an agent, get dinners paid for by them among other benefits, and not allow the other 95% of recruits to have the same.

To my mind, it's self regulating. Agents aren't going to waste time and money on you if you don't have pro potential. So that part of the rule was stupid.
 
Buffnik said:
USA Basketball ratings, I believe.

That is the major drawback of this. And, frankly, I think it opens them up to litigation to allow some people to hire an agent, get dinners paid for by them among other benefits, and not allow the other 95% of recruits to have the same.

To my mind, it's self regulating. Agents aren't going to waste time and money on you if you don't have pro potential. So that part of the rule was stupid.
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Agreed.
 
Buffnik said:
USA Basketball ratings, I believe.

That is the major drawback of this. And, frankly, I think it opens them up to litigation to allow some people to hire an agent, get dinners paid for by them among other benefits, and not allow the other 95% of recruits to have the same.

To my mind, it's self regulating. Agents aren't going to waste time and money on you if you don't have pro potential. So that part of the rule was stupid.
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This is a start. We've got a ways to go.
 
Buffnik said:
USA Basketball ratings, I believe.

That is the major drawback of this. And, frankly, I think it opens them up to litigation to allow some people to hire an agent, get dinners paid for by them among other benefits, and not allow the other 95% of recruits to have the same.

To my mind, it's self regulating. Agents aren't going to waste time and money on you if you don't have pro potential. So that part of the rule was stupid.
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I agree that the USA Basketball thing seemed odd, but whatever... ...the interesting thing though is that USA Basketball also thinks it's odd. According to ESPN, the NBA and USA Basketball were rather surprised by yesterday's announcement.

Sort of hilarious that the NCAA did some things as a positive step forward, but apparently failed to get full buy-in with the people they need to work with. Sort of a cluster****, even though it may not be not truly a huge deal in the long run. It does get the conversation started. The NBA doesn't think anything will happen until 2022.
 
Buffnik said:
USA Basketball ratings, I believe.

That is the major drawback of this. And, frankly, I think it opens them up to litigation to allow some people to hire an agent, get dinners paid for by them among other benefits, and not allow the other 95% of recruits to have the same.

To my mind, it's self regulating. Agents aren't going to waste time and money on you if you don't have pro potential. So that part of the rule was stupid.
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The draft grade, if they choose to go through the process, is what should be used for this. Get a high enough one, then you get permission to work with an agent.
 
Another step in the right direction....

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...all-stakeholders-align-support-usa-basketball

In a significant step toward the elimination of the one-and-done rule, basketball's biggest stakeholders have come together to make an unprecedented agreement that will allow the NBA to begin formally working with the nation's top teenagers to help prepare them for pro careers.

The NBA, NCAA and National Basketball Players Association announced Wednesday they have come together to extend their support of USA Basketball and its Junior National Team.

USA Basketball has identified top young players for decades and brought them together to train for international competitions. Now the program will be extended to approximately 80 players, or about 20 per high school class, and the NBA will provide health and wellness training, as well as assisting in other developmental programs. The series of training camps and competitions will begin in October at USA Basketball's headquarters in Colorado Springs, Colo.
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I love this so much. Ever since the debacle at the Athens Olympics, USA Basketball and the NBA have made it a point to work together for the good of the game in this country. Now.... FINALLY.... Getting the NCAA on board is big.
 
Not an NCAA change but seems like a decent thread for this.

As part of a newly formed "professional path" starting in the summer of 2019, the G League will offer "Select Contracts" worth $125,000 to elite prospects who are at least 18 years old but not yet eligible for the NBA draft. It will target recent or would-be high school graduates who otherwise would have likely spent just one season playing college basketball, enticing them not only with a six-figure salary but also the opportunity to benefit from NBA infrastructure, as well as a bevy of off-court development programs "geared towards facilitating and accelerating their transition to the pro game," Turner said.
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SewallBeach said:
Not an NCAA change but seems like a decent thread for this.
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I like to **** on Adam Silver sometimes, but he is a pretty smart and progressive thinker. I like this move, although I still think the G League could be so much more and better. Great step forward imo.
 
SewallBeach said:
Not an NCAA change but seems like a decent thread for this.
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The one and done was stupid. NCAA bball will survive without them and potentially make on court play better as teams actually build programs instead of just recruiting for that year. Also should bring some parity to conferences as the money programs lose out on those talents. Of course $125k may be less than what kentucky or kansas were already paying, and the kids have to pay taxes on it because it is legit.
 
AeroBuff99 said:
The one and done was stupid. NCAA bball will survive without them and potentially make on court play better as teams actually build programs instead of just recruiting for that year. Also should bring some parity to conferences as the money programs lose out on those talents. Of course $125k may be less than what kentucky or kansas were already paying, and the kids have to pay taxes on it because it is legit.
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There are over 300 D1 MBB programs, over 80 that are either in major conferences or considered as contenders to advance in the tourney on a regular basis (Gonzaga, Wichita State, etc.) Of all those schools how many actually have players who come out of HS as a legitimate NBA prospect.

This may have a slight impact on the "star power" of NCAA basketball but I don't think that will even be an issue. Instead the best remaining players will rise to the top but because they are not leaving in one year fans will get a chance to know and recognize them.

What will likely will happen is that the talent gap between those normally elite teams and the next level will reduce so we may start seeing more variety in the teams that go deep in the tourney.
 
Holy **** that's bad. Hoping it's a small sample size, but man... they really should have waited.
 
Yeah, that didn't do a good job of selling me on it. Still just seems to be overthinking the whole thing to me
 
Hmmm.

These NET rankings are fishy.

Texas Tech ranked 3rd when the best opponent they’ve played is Incarnate word?

Over Gonzaga and Duke?

Awright man...
 
CU #46 in latest NET rankings (out yesterday).

full list

and for those who complain ESPN has an ACC-bias, a look at their current BPI rankings will give you a bit more ammo for that argument.
 
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