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'19 GA S Jamal Hill (Signed to Oregon)

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Morrow HS (Morrow, GA)

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Ht: 6'1"
Wt: 192
40: 4.45 (10.96 reported 100M)

247s rating: 3* - 88 grade; #38 S
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Rivals rating: 3* - 5.7rr; #46 S

247sports Composite: 3* / 0.8789 / #44 S / #521 overall

Reported Offers: COLORADO, Alabama, Appalachian State, Arkansas, Ball State, Boston College, Central Michigan, Cincinnati, CSU, East Carolina, FAU, FIU, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Indiana, Kent State, Liberty, Louisville, Massachusetts, Memphis, Michigan, Middle Tennessee, Nebraska, North Carolina, NC State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Alabama, Syracuse, Toledo, Troy, UAB, Vanderbilt, Western Kentucky, Western Michigan, FCS
 
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This probably belongs in another thread, but it's actually a little closer than you think. 247 only ranks 32 players in CO with 14 P5 commits, 6 G5 commits, 2 FCS and 1 Ivy. That leaves 9 that are uncommitted in that list and are all probably G5/FCS/D2, so 39th would likely be D2 as well, but those numbers were a little surprising, tbh.
 
TSchekler said:
This probably belongs in another thread, but it's actually a little closer than you think. 247 only ranks 32 players in CO with 14 P5 commits, 6 G5 commits, 2 FCS and 1 Ivy. That leaves 9 that are uncommitted in that list and are all probably G5/FCS/D2, so 39th would likely be D2 as well, but those numbers were a little surprising, tbh.
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Look at a state like Georgia or Ohio and you probably have at least 60 kids going FBS or FCS.

In Colorado you listed the numbers. Think about the kids CU takes plus the kids going to other P5 programs. Then you get a few CSU kids and AFA kids, a bigger number to Wyoming, and some to the rest of the MWC so +/- 20 FBS level kids is a solid number on a yearly basis.

FCS commitments usually come in later (kids hoping/waiting for a D1 offer) but UNC normally takes at least 10 Colorado kids. The Montana schools recruit Colorado heavily as do the Dakota schools so you get another 15-20 FCS kids plus a few each year going Ivy league. Another few find their way to FCS schools on the west coast or Midwest.

That means that you are at or above 40 before the D2 schools even kick in. The RMAC which is D2 is mostly Colorado schools each of which is mostly Colorado kids. The other RMAC schools as well recruit Colorado heavily. I haven't looked it up but I would guess that the RMAC takes a total of 80-100 Colorado kids per year. In addition there are a smaller number of local kids who go to Midwestern D2 schools.

In total just a rough guess but each year Colorado is putting out at least 100 kids who are getting at least some of their college paid for by playing football.

Compare that the most recent number I could find showed that in 2014 Georgia had 248 kids sign at the FBS level. It didn't indicate how many signed at FCS or D2 but it would figure that the number is easily close to 1000.

This also means that a kid like Hill ranked as the #44 player in Georgia is the equivalent of at least a top 6-7 player in a state like Colorado.

Add to that the concentration of talent in Georgia means that he has likely faced much better talent than a top 10 Colorado kid. This both means he is better prepared for P5 level football and the film they used in evaluating him has more credibility.
 
MtnBuff said:
Look at a state like Georgia or Ohio and you probably have at least 60 kids going FBS or FCS.

In Colorado you listed the numbers. Think about the kids CU takes plus the kids going to other P5 programs. Then you get a few CSU kids and AFA kids, a bigger number to Wyoming, and some to the rest of the MWC so +/- 20 FBS level kids is a solid number on a yearly basis.

FCS commitments usually come in later (kids hoping/waiting for a D1 offer) but UNC normally takes at least 10 Colorado kids. The Montana schools recruit Colorado heavily as do the Dakota schools so you get another 15-20 FCS kids plus a few each year going Ivy league. Another few find their way to FCS schools on the west coast or Midwest.

That means that you are at or above 40 before the D2 schools even kick in. The RMAC which is D2 is mostly Colorado schools each of which is mostly Colorado kids. The other RMAC schools as well recruit Colorado heavily. I haven't looked it up but I would guess that the RMAC takes a total of 80-100 Colorado kids per year. In addition there are a smaller number of local kids who go to Midwestern D2 schools.

In total just a rough guess but each year Colorado is putting out at least 100 kids who are getting at least some of their college paid for by playing football.

Compare that the most recent number I could find showed that in 2014 Georgia had 248 kids sign at the FBS level. It didn't indicate how many signed at FCS or D2 but it would figure that the number is easily close to 1000.

This also means that a kid like Hill ranked as the #44 player in Georgia is the equivalent of at least a top 6-7 player in a state like Colorado.

Add to that the concentration of talent in Georgia means that he has likely faced much better talent than a top 10 Colorado kid. This both means he is better prepared for P5 level football and the film they used in evaluating him has more credibility.
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Not trying to insult anyones intelligence, but it really is so much of a difference living here in NC from a talent perspective. I have lived in CO, Socal and AZ. And the amount of talent here is just at a different level. And it is exactly as you have pointed out. It isn't that the best or the second tier is any better here, but it is the dept of talent. On any given night here in NC you can go to a 1a or 2a school and see a number of kids that have DI size and ability. I think if you are looking at the top high school programs in CO they would match up well just about anywhere from a talent and coaching perspective. But as you move down levels there is just a depth of talent that I have seen here in NC (let alone other areas of the south) that you will not find in many other areas.

I don't understand all the ins and outs of football recruiting, but if HCMT is able to maintain solid ties to CA, AZ, TX and CO while having a regular presence in the Southeast I think that would bring nothing but good things on the field each fall.
 
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