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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Victory
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I see it working. Interesting that this morning Bob Thompson and Crakes (former Fox guys) are saying it can’t work, that Xfinity, Time Warner, DirecTV will push back on increasing sub fees in P12 markets despite that it’s written into the contract. I asked what their solution is but no response yet.
I’m always skeptical of 1) former Fox employees talking about how ESPN won’t succeed because I think it’s baked in them to hate on their rival and 2) TV folks in general because they rarely want to see schools make more money. Crying poor seems to be a go to move for them.
This.
FSU and Clemson would tie themselves to the ACC/PAC merged conference for 4-6 years in order to break the GOR.
Why? Because it's a better deal then what they have now.
I've always thought an ACC/PAC merger was the best short term solution, especially for ESPN. As a fan, that would be pretty awesome as well.
I guess the question probably remains, what kind of financial uptick does this bring to both the ACC and PAC? Do you get an extra $5-$10 million a year per School with ESPN getting majority of the rights? I think a close to $10 million uptick probably keeps everyone happy for a short term but maybe not
I guess the question probably remains, what kind of financial uptick does this bring to both the ACC and PAC? Do you get an extra $5-$10 million a year per School with ESPN getting majority of the rights? I think a close to $10 million uptick probably keeps everyone happy for a short term but maybe not
Their last reported distribution was $36M per school compared to the SEC and B1G at $50M. New deals will significantly widen that gap. If I'm Clemson, it doesn't sit well that South Carolina is getting paid a lot more for media rights (as an example). Heck, Miami and FSU may be looking at UCF getting paid more than them. Something's got to give.
Victory
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What’s the number, media rights wise only, that FSU, Clemson, etc need to see? I’d say $50-55M in order to pipe down and commit long term. If there’s unequal playoff revenue sharing that’s another avenue (not opposed to this w/ Prime).
I don’t think it’s possible to get to the $50-55M number with all existing 24 ACC-PAC schools. That would be $1.3B per year and $9.2B over 7 years. There would have to be some hard decisions made about markets and brands.
More relevant though: what's the short term number?
And, to be clear, "short term" = when the SEC & B1G current contracts expire.
Starts roughly 5 min in.
Info from an ASU donor who's been given info in the past that has supposedly come through. Interesting to see if any of this comes true.
Sounds like mid-May might be kind of a
time table to look at. (April 28 -May 17th)
5 year deal.
Unsustainable deal.
There really isn’t new news here (again).
For others reading, the anonymous letter from “ASU Money Perch” insider says that the numbers for the media deal are known, but the composition of the broadcast partners is still fluid. But the numbers still suggest an “unsustainable” deal, meaning a payout well below the figure for the Big 12.
The insider suggests several teams would sign the unsustainable deal because they either have no option (Oregon State, Washington State), are looking to bounce pretty quickly (Washington, Oregon), or they have an option but can’t get the institutional support from schools, donors, alumni (four corners).
The four corner schools will test the institutional support over the next month. If it’s there, they bounce to the Big 12. If not, they sign the unsustainable deal and warehouse themselves for a few years hoping for a better landing spot down the line.
Like I said, nothing new here. Schools will wait for options, and then decide. Haven’t we known this since August 2022?
But this is inside information!
They like fine wines here too.
Victory
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This guy only cares about getting Oregon and Washington into the B1G. Any scenario that creates that outcome, he’ll push it. He doesn’t give a s*** about the P12 or talk to ASU donors. It’s all a self serving agenda as far as I can tell.
Just curious if anyone has actually clicked on any of these videos ITB keeps posting. It's like the 40th time he's posted one. I know I haven't.
nd to the pac.
why the F not? every other crazed theory of dumb****ery has been proposed by the fans. therefore, this is the one that changes everything.
dear truckstop 12: **** all the way off. dear usc: **** you to hell.
we're gonna win and the rest of these ****s can suck on a tailpipe until they pass out.
why the F not? every other crazed theory of dumb****ery has been proposed by the fans. therefore, this is the one that changes everything.
dear truckstop 12: **** all the way off. dear usc: **** you to hell.
we're gonna win and the rest of these ****s can suck on a tailpipe until they pass out.
A PAC/ACC merger with ND added would be a game changer
Makes too much sense and why it won't happen.
I'm not convinced it makes sense for ND
ND won't even budge on a BIG offer so the chances of something like this happening are almost zero. An ACC/PAC would have to come up with something absolutely astronomical for ND to commit to that conference. Unequal revenue sharing would be a must. You never know and something that would be as close as you could get to rival an SEC or BIG
I'm convinced the longer ND goes without winning a NC, they will continue to get marginalized but won't recognize it until way beyond it is too late.
Yes, they made the playoff twice, and got absolutely scorched - and their coach left in the process to a place where he thought he had a better chance at winning.
I watched one but the algorithm immediately took me to an Alex Jones video so I think I’m out on that.
I think they'd need to take a massive nose dive for that to ever happen. The backing of the catholic church will always make them relevant, imo
Notre Dame isn't going to stop being CFB royalty. Only program that can command an independent media network deal and play all its away games at neutral site NFL venues.
I'd love to be tied to them, even if it's via sharing a conference for non-football which included the occasional fb game through a scheduling alliance.
I'd love to be tied to them, even if it's via sharing a conference for non-football which included the occasional fb game through a scheduling alliance.