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So much has yet to happen.

1) Baylor is a private school- not a state school

2) Waco-Temple-Bryan, TX tv market is ranked 89th- Denver is 16th

3) Do you really think Stanford or Cal will vote in Baptists ?

4) I still expect the SEC to make some noise & inquire about OU & A&M
 
Step "off" the ledge? Are things that bad? Or did you mean step "away" from the ledge?
 
http://www.texasmonthly.com/2008-11-01/feature.php --- If we do get the invite and the money is right then we need to build up the sports we have and invest in the facilities --- This was a great article that shows how Texas became the power it is now from a struggling program in the 90's -- In my opinion CU is in the same boat right now that Texas was in 1996 --While we may not be able to duplicate this model and achieve all these results, it still is a great model to try to follow - Build up the revenue generating sports by investing in facilities, coaches and the wins and money will follow!
 
That story is legit?


You got me curious. If a story is true, you can almost always verify from more than one source. Some detail should be verifiable. Did they meet in person? Conference call? At a hotel? When?

If this proves to be true, someone has some "explaining to do" because there would be a clear violation of the Texas Open Meetings Act (TOMA) which generally requires that deliberations concerning an issue within the jurisdiction of governmental body must take place in an open meeting after public notice.
Private discussions and e-mail exchanges occurring among a quorum of the members of a governmental body may violate TOMA if they involve deliberations about public business or issues that are within the jurisdiction of the governmental body.

Are we saying that a "high ranking member" of the Texas legislature chose to give this massive strategic scoop to a recruiting website anonymously? Because so far every single "news" story goes back to a post on "Orangebloods.com" ... a little odd to say the least. Why a rivals reporter/website and not a legitimate newspaper if you wanted to get this story out to the masses? And why give it to exactly one source? And that source affiliated with a single university?

Even if WAS true (which I doubt at this point), there are 32 members of the Texas State Legislature. 15 isn't a majority. Plus, in TX you need a two-thirds vote for a resolution. So you have fewer than half of an elected body who is taking this on as the most important action they have to worry about in the off-season? I know it's Texas, but come on. We have national health care reform, highways, a crisis in K-12 education, and they are worried about Baylor?

Has the TX Governor weighed in? According to TX constitution, only the Governor can call a special session at this time if the legislature wishes to take action or make a statement on behalf of the entire state. "Only the Governor may call the Legislature into special sessions (the legislature may not call itself into session, as is the case in some other states), and the governor may call as many sessions as he wishes."

Sure this story could be true, but it's also possible that someone is meddling and pulling everyone's leg. Maybe a Baylor grad with worries. But I can't find any confirmation of the original story. See for yourself.

Here's the breakdown:

ESPN quoting "unnamed source"
"...We're already at work on this," the site quoted a a high-ranking member of the Texas Legislature as saying.
The source said that there is a block of 15 legislators working to make sure that Baylor, not Colorado, is invited to join the Pac-10.
I don't know Texas law, but in Colorado, a group of 15 elected officials cannot get together privately and discuss/decide anything. Seen any notice of public meetings posted on this?
Hmmm. Didn't think so.

The "unnamed source" is from the unverified Orangebloods.com story by Chip Brown

Waco Tribune repeats the story ... and their source is a college football blog.
Orangebloods.com reported Saturday that a block of 15 legislators will work to make sure Baylor instead of Colorado is invited to the Pac-10 if the league expands. The website previously reported that the Pac-10 was prepared to invite Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado.
"...do you think we’re going to allow a school outside the state of Texas to replace one of our schools in the Big 12 South?” a high-ranking member of the Texas Legislature who asked not to be identified told Orangebloods.com.
NewsRunnner, another online blog/reporting service, also quote Orangebloods.com "the Rivals-affiliated website."

Dallas News? They have the same story and it's also attributed to Orangebloods.com.

This poster on a TCU fan board made mysterious sense with the question:

How can the State Legislature get involved at all? Baylor is a private school, therefore doesn't get state funding. So how can the legislature have any say in what happens to Baylor when they don't control any of their revenue distribution?

Same as the legislature mandating TCU going to the Pac-10. Doesn't make sense. You can't control what happens to a business you don't fund.
And a fellow poster on killerfrogs.com responded:
I want our state representatives to tell the Waco reps to but out. They have no business using public power for one private university. If they want to get involved it needs to be for all the private universities in question - Baylor, TCU, SMU and Rice. (current FBS schools stuck with the BCS system)
The conversation continues.

But until we get more than one confirmation that this group of Texas legislators met (probably violating state laws on private meetings of public officials), I am taking it all with a large grain of salt. Where's the public statement of this group and how they came to discuss this burning issue of statewide importance?
 
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Even if this is true, it goes to show you how egotistical and selfserving texass politicians can be when it comes collage football. They don't care who they have to step on to get what they want. Their state slogan, "Don't mess with Texass" says it all.
 
This poster on a TCU fan board made mysterious sense with the question:
How can the State Legislature get involved at all? Baylor is a private school, therefore doesn't get state funding. So how can the legislature have any say in what happens to Baylor when they don't control any of their revenue distribution?

Same as the legislature mandating TCU going to the Pac-10. Doesn't make sense. You can't control what happens to a business you don't fund.
But they do give money and therefore control the other schools. "We don't want you to go without Baylor. If you go, we slash funding." Thus they can affect Baylor.

I don't actually know anything, just had the idea that's how it could work for that.
 
But they do give money and therefore control the other schools. "We don't want you to go without Baylor. If you go, we slash funding." Thus they can affect Baylor.

I don't actually know anything, just had the idea that's how it could work for that.

Well, it could be true, but the way it's coming down makes no sense.
A secret group of unidentifed legislators discusses and agrees to take action, during the off-season of the Texas Legislature. Either the other half of the Legislature wasn't contacted or did not agree, because 15 is less than half of TX's legislators.
They possibly violate TX law to do so, and then leak the details to a Rivals reporter?

Makes no sense.

The part about wanting Baylor to tag along in any PAC10-16 deal makes some sort of vague sense but it makes no sense that they would agree to work for a 4=team deal and then leak it to a recruiting site and not the real media. The identities of the legislators MUST come out in order for this to be taken seriously, so if they remain secret, my doubt level increases.
 
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