My last thread got deleted I know I came off trollish I really did not mean to.
I will ask a simple question because I am curious. Do any CU fans have any link or information that shows why the Pac 10 would generate more money for the P-10 conference with the inclusion of CU and Utah? I mean on a per school basis the inclusion of a championship game does not do that unless it generates more per school on average than the schools in the Pac 10 already get.
I honestly just don't get why the Pac 10 would expand with just those two teams. And yes I understand tv markets but are Denver and Salt Lake that big of a deal compared to Phoenix, LA, San Fran and Seattle?
For the record I am happy for CU you got out before the Big XII house burned down and I will miss playing the Buffs every year.
Because the Pac-10 is forming their own TV network and the # of TV households matters SIGNIFICANTLY more to a conference-owned network than to a traditional over-the-air broadcaster.
The Pac has been "undervalued" significantly in the past, of that there is no debate. Larry Scott, Kevin Weiberg, and CAA Media Sports Ventures are 100% committed to forming a conference owned network similar to the Big Ten. The Big Ten "only" gets $5.5 MM per year/per school from their "contract" with the Big Ten Network, and $9MM from their ABC/ESPN deal. The rest of the $20-24MM they get is from bowl distributions, basketball tournament distributions, and an ever increasing chunk as a profit distribution from the 51% share in the TV Network.
The revenue is generated from a combination of TV Ratings (advertising money) and cable carrier fees ($/monthly subscriber).
Adding Colorado and the Denver market, which has a great many "transplants" from the West Coast and 1 to 2 million TV households means that they will more than pull their weight in bringing revenue to the conference.
Reports were that the Pac-10 (as a 10 team package) would be looking to get anywhere from $12-15 MM per school with their total rights being up for contract in 2011-12. The former Big 12 Commish (Kevin Weiberg) who also helped establish the BTN, obviously KNEW that CU would bring in a bigger per school share than that, otherwise they would not have invited us.
You want facts and evidence, but that invite alone, is all the facts that are needed. The leadership of the Pac-10 are far more sophisticated than you seem to give them credit for. That is your problem. The bottom line is that none of this will be solidified for another year, as the Pac-10 is getting their teams lined up first, then will negotiate all the finer points of their deals by April of 2011 in advance of the 2012 season.
Your money is off. The Pac now splits 9 mil a year per team. 90 Million dollars for the Pac 10. Adding Utah and Colorado and keeping the same figures means the Pac needs to make $118 Million just to keep par.
I doubt CU can bring in 9 Mil per year. (Utah less) since you could not come close to that in the Big XII. That is all. I would like to know why Colorado can bring in to the Pac 10 significantly more than they could bring into the Big XII. It is a simple question and I am sure you all have some denverpost.com links or something.
You are making too many apples to oranges comparisons.
The Big 12 revenues were a fixed figure that were originally contracted based on projections of TV ratings and market sizes. Colorado was a major factor in the value of the Big 12 contract being what it was. The amount that was divided up to each team was based on 1 year's # of national/regional televised games in football and basketball. CU did get a fair amount of football games on national TV, but not many in basketball. To say that CU didn't pull its weight or was an underperformer for the current season's distribution is accurate, but not relevant in the bigger picture. Each season does not have the conference renegotiate their TV deals, bowl deals, etc. The dividing up of the revenues is simply an allocation based on appearances on TV, not size of markets or ratings.
Again, this is significantly different under a conference-owned network scenario, where market size matters much more significantly.
Adding the Colorado media markets to a Pac-10 Network will generate $0.70 to $1.00 per month for each TV household that receives distribution. There are 1.5 million households in the Denver metro market and another 400k in Colorado Springs/Pueblo market. That equates to a market cap of $16 to $23MM per year. Factor in the added value of a national over-the-air contract like the Big Ten's ABC/ESPN contract; additional bowl games, a conference championship game, and increased attendance at many Pac-10 home venues and there is more than enough evidence to support the Pac-10's decision to invite Colorado.
