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Big12-2 Realignment TV Money makes NOTHING

Darth Snow

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Let's get this straight...

1. ESPN has big 12 for 80 mil per year right now
2. Big 12 just lost kNU with top national audience
3. and # 16 market in nation.
4. And the ESPN contract goes for another 4 years or moreish
5. and FSN gets the ESPN leftovoers
6...?
7. Profit as somehow ****ING BEEBE will convince FSN and ESPN to give the big12-2 ANOTHER 50-100 mil/year?

Or Somehow get fox to magically buy out the ESPN contract and pay out all that cash?

Makes no sense to me man.
 
Are you kidding me? Of course Beebe will say anything. But, whatever he said worked! Clearly, one of the networks stepped up to the plate for a new Big 12 TV contract. Baylor's wet dream came true.
 
Agree. So apparently Fox is going to pay huge money to broadcast games from these teams... Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, OSU, Mizzou, Iowa State, Kansas, K State, Texas Tech, and Baylor... comprising the state markets in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Iowa (where a large portion of the state roots for the Hawkeyes), and part of Missouri (let's be honest, St. Louis is very pro-Illinois).

So they are going to be competing nationally with CBS/ABC/ESPN that are broadcasting SEC games. Sure, the games UT plays will probably get some national viewership, and maybe a few OU games, but really, if they are broadcasting nearly every conference game, who is going to tune into games to watch Baylor v. Kstate, Iowa State v. Tech? Nobody, except in those small markets. So Fox will be paying big money to broadcast say K State v. Iowa State? You've got to be kidding me. If the numbers are legit whoever is making the calls at Fox is going to get axed.
 
Are you kidding me? Of course Beebe will say anything. But, whatever he said worked! Clearly, one of the networks stepped up to the plate for a new Big 12 TV contract. Baylor's wet dream came true.

Well, it sure aint FSN.
 
Agree. So apparently Fox is going to pay huge money to broadcast games from these teams... Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, OSU, Mizzou, Iowa State, Kansas, K State, Texas Tech, and Baylor... comprising the state markets in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Iowa (where a large portion of the state roots for the Hawkeyes), and part of Missouri (let's be honest, St. Louis is very pro-Illinois).

So they are going to be competing nationally with CBS/ABC/ESPN that are broadcasting SEC games. Sure, the games UT plays will probably get some national viewership, and maybe a few OU games, but really, if they are broadcasting nearly every conference game, who is going to tune into games to watch Baylor v. Kstate, Iowa State v. Tech? Nobody, except in those small markets. So Fox will be paying big money to broadcast say K State v. Iowa State? You've got to be kidding me. If the numbers are legit whoever is making the calls at Fox is going to get axed.

I have a feeling that Fox is the one bidding up the Pac TV contract, and that if UT & hoes accept the Pac-10's invite then ABC/ESPN loses them to Fox. So ABC/ESPN would be willing to step up in order to keep the remaining Big 12 teams, but only the ones that draw ratings.
 
Didn't ABC/ESPN have a lot of incentive to keep the Big 12 in existence, since they just paid an arm and a leg for the BCS championships?
 
Dallas, check this out:

The Big 12’s television future, however, is complicated because it has two deals — with ABC/ESPN and with Fox — that end at different times.

The Big 12 is making only $20 million a year in the final two years of its deal with Fox, which controls about 60 Big 12 games. The ESPN/ABC deal is about $60 million per year for just 18 games through the 2015-16 season, although those are the top-tier games. The deals also include basketball games, which slightly skew the numbers.

Renegotiating existing deals or providing a new television deal for secondary games, now shown on FSN, provided the fiscal initiative to keep the league together. Although it was uncertain whether Fox renegotiated its existing deal or extended the current deal past 2011, television revenue from Fox clearly had a large impact on saving the Big 12. The new deal could generate as much as $5 million to $7 million per university per season.

The math can be fuzzy. The conference title game, an annual moneymaker for the Big 12, is in peril because the league no longer has the minimum 12 teams the N.C.A.A. requires to hold the game. It could petition the N.C.A.A. to maintain it with 10 teams, and the N.C.A.A. has considered changing that rule.
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note fuzzy math :lol:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/15/sports/ncaafootball/15colleges.html

even if fox bumped up the per team average from 1ish to 5 mil (talk about an increase!), I still don't see how that gets everyone 14 mil.... (when lots of teams were at 5 mil!!)
 
Dallas, check this out:

...
note fuzzy math :lol:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/15/sports/ncaafootball/15colleges.html

even if fox bumped up the per team average from 1ish to 5 mil (talk about an increase!), I still don't see how that gets everyone 14 mil.... (when lots of teams were at 5 mil!!)

Yeah it all sounds good now with the UT media spinning it for all that it is worth. Especially when you consider the loss of the Big 12 Championship game which is worth about 1 mill per team in revenue and with the 12 Pac effectively taking over the entire Mtn time zone with Utah and Colorado along with the AZ schools. I am thinking the new deal will be better then the current one but I guarantee now that the TV execs have saved the conference they will be a lot less friendly at the bargaining table.
 
Didn't ABC/ESPN have a lot of incentive to keep the Big 12 in existence, since they just paid an arm and a leg for the BCS championships?

They don't give a flying f*** who plays in those as long as they get some subset of Florida, USC, Texas, Ohio State, Notre Dame, LSU.
 
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