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OK. Listening top KOA's "Hawkins Show" or whatever it is called

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First, Ray Polk is a MAN. Just sounds like an awesome kid.

Second, Hawk is REALLY upbeat for a "dead man walking." Maybe he's come to the "Acceptance Stage" of grief?
 
interesting comments from Hagan about wanting to run the ball....(in the context of the coaches meetings)
 
interesting comments from Hagan about wanting to run the ball....(in the context of the coaches meetings)

Hawk being upbeat is also possibly a defense mechanism. i know people like this. who are "up" even when they are truly down.

maybe he was listening to some Van Morrison earlier.

well, that was supposed to be an edit not a new post. had to go check on the turkey burgers.
 
Or maybe he put on his cowboy hat and played some Jerry Jeff Walker - everytime he does an interview on one of the Austin sports stations all he talks about is Jerry Jeff Walker, swimming with great white sharks in South Africa or Van Morrison
 
Dan is laughing to the bank at CU's expense. Why shouldn't he be upbeat?

This. He has swindled this university, administration and fan base. His treachery knows no bounds as he continues to beat CU football into submission.

However, he is most upbeat because he gets to play his son again. Can't wait for balls batted down at the line and one yard passes.
 
He's still drawing a fat paycheck, his son is QB again, and his bosses are nutless. Who wouldn't be upbeat?
 
Hmm, based on a few posts above, I wonder if we have been conditioned in our culture to only see things in black and white/good vs. evil/etc. Dan Hawkins is evil and laughing all the way to the bank? I mean, I want him gone too, but I don't think the guy has had some diabolical scheme to swindle CU out of millions of dollars. He tried, he failed...that doesn't make the man the anti-christ. I'm sure he feels pretty terrible.
 
Hmm, based on a few posts above, I wonder if we have been conditioned in our culture to only see things in black and white/good vs. evil/etc. Dan Hawkins is evil and laughing all the way to the bank? I mean, I want him gone too, but I don't think the guy has had some diabolical scheme to swindle CU out of millions of dollars. He tried, he failed...that doesn't make the man the anti-christ. I'm sure he feels pretty terrible.

I've said it before, but I believe it bears repeating. There is no shame in trying and failing, the shame is in acting like an arrogant jackass while you do it. D II has been an arrogant jackass the whole way through. I don't hate him or wish him ill. He just isn't the man for the job and that has been apparent for the last calendar year. The admin. is the one screwing this up now. OTOH, at some point a person's honor ought to override their greed. He should have resigned by now...by not doing so, he is showing that he is all about Dan. Quite contrary to the supposed moral high ground he has been insulting us from for these past years. That is why people dislike him so.
 
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I remember the days when Coach Mac's call-in show was at the Harvest House. I made it a Wednesday night tradition to go to every one of them. Mac NEVER hid from any questions.
 
I remember the days when Coach Mac's call-in show was at the Harvest House. I made it a Wednesday night tradition to go to every one of them. Mac NEVER hid from any questions.

Mac was/is a leader. Mac didn't hide or blame others when he was the one in charge.
 
Or maybe he put on his cowboy hat and played some Jerry Jeff Walker - everytime he does an interview on one of the Austin sports stations all he talks about is Jerry Jeff Walker, swimming with great white sharks in South Africa or Van Morrison


I think Talkins is Bi-polar
 
It kind of occurred to me that when Hawk asked for an extension in the meeting before the season, he did it to see what kind of reaction he would get. Kind of sticking his toe in the water. I doubt if he is so dillusional that he actually thought they would say, "Yeah, sure Dan, we totally agree."
 
Hmm, based on a few posts above, I wonder if we have been conditioned in our culture to only see things in black and white/good vs. evil/etc. Dan Hawkins is evil and laughing all the way to the bank? I mean, I want him gone too, but I don't think the guy has had some diabolical scheme to swindle CU out of millions of dollars. He tried, he failed...that doesn't make the man the anti-christ. I'm sure he feels pretty terrible.

Agree and he isn't just going to be depressed out in the open. He has no choice to be positive because he subscribes to the power of positive thinking. I think his behavior is exactly what it should be. Handle his last few weeks with as much positive behavior as he can. I don't want him to mope, scream, yell, or act like a jackass.

I think he is doing the best he can knowing he is gone....
 
Agree and he isn't just going to be depressed out in the open. He has no choice to be positive because he subscribes to the power of positive thinking. I think his behavior is exactly what it should be. Handle his last few weeks with as much positive behavior as he can. I don't want him to mope, scream, yell, or act like a jackass.

I think he is doing the best he can knowing he is gone....

Completely agree with you. If he is here for 1 week or thru the rest of the season, he will put on the positive face. If he went negative, that would be the first step in a mid season firing and it would tarnish him even more than his record at CU. He knows this gig is up and he will want to find a job at some level in coaching at some point in time.
 
I really don't think Hawkins ends up coaching anywhere else. At least not at anyplace worth a damn. Possibly a D-II school, but even there I think I would have some reservations if I'm an AD looking at making a hire. The guy is toxic. He took a program that played in the CCG the year before he got here and parlayed that to the bottom of the conference in five short years. That's quite a resume builder right there.
 
I really don't think Hawkins ends up coaching anywhere else. At least not at anyplace worth a damn. Possibly a D-II school, but even there I think I would have some reservations if I'm an AD looking at making a hire. The guy is toxic. He took a program that played in the CCG the year before he got here and parlayed that to the bottom of the conference in five short years. That's quite a resume builder right there.
Buddy Teevens got a job after his epic Stanford failure. D II will get a job too, but probably a D III school where his rah rah, sun will come up tomorrow, it's OK to get your asses kicked blather will be acceptable.
 
I've said it before, but I believe it bears repeating. There is no shame in trying and failing, the shame is in acting like an arrogant jackass while you do it. D II has been an arrogant jackass the whole way through. I don't hate him or wish him ill. He just isn't the man for the job and that has been apparent for the last calendar year. The admin. is the one screwing this up now. OTOH, at some point a person's honor ought to override their greed. He should have resigned by now...by not doing so, he is showing that he is all about Dan. Quite contrary to the supposed moral high ground he has been insulting us from for these past years. That is why people dislike him so.

Not defending DH here, but in all honesty you and everybody else on this board would do the same thing. Stop being a hypocrite and calling for him to do something you would NEVER do. Humm let me resign and forfeit a lot of money or keep plugging and chugging while providing for my family and when it ends, it ends. He needs to go, but thinking he will resign and hating him because he doesn't is DUMB.
 
Buddy Teevens got a job after his epic Stanford failure. D II will get a job too, but probably a D III school where his rah rah, sun will come up tomorrow, it's OK to get your asses kicked blather will be acceptable.

Failing at Stanford and failing at CU are two very different things. Success is more uncommon in Palo Alto than it is here. DIII schools still want to win, and they don't want to have a doucherocket running the team. I wouldn't hire the guy to coach a high school team. Danny will take his money, what there is of it, and go into broadcasting or some kind of consulting work.
 
Not defending DH here, but in all honesty you and everybody else on this board would do the same thing. Stop being a hypocrite and calling for him to do something you would NEVER do. Humm let me resign and forfeit a lot of money or keep plugging and chugging while providing for my family and when it ends, it ends. He needs to go, but thinking he will resign and hating him because he doesn't is DUMB.
First of all, you don't know me or what I do for a living or whether I have done what I am suggesting DH do. Second, I never said I hated him, nor do I hate him for not resigning. Under your theory no one would ever resign from a job or a post, but it happens all the time. Suggesting someone do it isn't dumb, acting like no one would ever do it when there are so many examples is, well, I'll do you the courtesy of not insulting you...I'll just say unrealistic.
 
Failing at Stanford and failing at CU are two very different things. Success is more uncommon in Palo Alto than it is here. DIII schools still want to win, and they don't want to have a doucherocket running the team. I wouldn't hire the guy to coach a high school team. Danny will take his money, what there is of it, and go into broadcasting or some kind of consulting work.

Thank God for the mute button...
 
Agree and he isn't just going to be depressed out in the open. He has no choice to be positive because he subscribes to the power of positive thinking. I think his behavior is exactly what it should be. Handle his last few weeks with as much positive behavior as he can. I don't want him to mope, scream, yell, or act like a jackass.

I think he is doing the best he can knowing he is gone....

I don't know. The guy is a total ass to reporters. Even more so than usual, especially when you take into account the softballs that they are lobbing him. His one remote sliver of hope is by building good will with his window to the public and he is failing miserably.
 
First of all, you don't know me or what I do for a living or whether I have done what I am suggesting DH do. Second, I never said I hated him, nor do I hate him for not resigning. Under your theory no one would ever resign from a job or a post, but it happens all the time. Suggesting someone do it isn't dumb, acting like no one would ever do it when there are so many examples is, well, I'll do you the courtesy of not insulting you...I'll just say unrealistic.

True I don't know you and I was not insulting you, I was pointing out that your logic on DH's morality is flawed since the resounding consensus on resigning would most likely be very much the same. I can't think off the top of my head of any "like" situations where someone would resign and forfeit the kind of compensation he is owed. I'm sure we could find a politician or CEO type situation, but I would hardly consider those "like" situations since they usually take a lump some home or have another job waiting. In this case, DH would take nothing home unless he negotiated his resignation and I can't believe there is another job waiting for him anytime soon. The logic doesn't fit sorry, and I don't think his non-action in this case calls into question his morality or lack thereof.
 
True I don't know you and I was not insulting you, I was pointing out that your logic on DH's morality is flawed since the resounding consensus on resigning would most likely be very much the same. I can't think off the top of my head of any "like" situations where someone would resign and forfeit the kind of compensation he is owed. I'm sure we could find a politician or CEO type situation, but I would hardly consider those "like" situations since they usually take a lump some home or have another job waiting. In this case, DH would take nothing home unless he negotiated his resignation and I can't believe there is another job waiting for him anytime soon. The logic doesn't fit sorry, and I don't think his non-action in this case calls into question his morality or lack thereof.

Your opinion.
 
Failing at Stanford and failing at CU are two very different things. Success is more uncommon in Palo Alto than it is here. DIII schools still want to win, and they don't want to have a doucherocket running the team. I wouldn't hire the guy to coach a high school team. Danny will take his money, what there is of it, and go into broadcasting or some kind of consulting work.

Demotion.... OC at a non-BCS school under a friend in the coaching circles.....
 
Demotion.... OC at a non-BCS school under a friend in the coaching circles.....

What friends does this guy have in coaching circles? Serious question. I have no idea. I would tend to think the guy is nuclear right now. Nobody wants anything to do with him and his zen bullshat.

OTOH, Neuhisel keeps getting hired, so maybe I'm off base here.
 
Chris Peterson? LOL. I got nothing, but seeing him go back to Boise State as say a WR coach would be pretty hilarious..
 
What friends does this guy have in coaching circles? Serious question. I have no idea. I would tend to think the guy is nuclear right now. Nobody wants anything to do with him and his zen bullshat.

OTOH, Neuhisel keeps getting hired, so maybe I'm off base here.
He could get a job with the NY Jets with Bill Callahan.
 
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