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Oddity

cu3x

cu3x

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JE and hawk were the finalists last time and JE was "heartbroken" (today's BDC) when he didn't get the job.

How often, if ever, has a major program chosen 1 of 2 finalists, declared him a failure and fired him after several years AND then gone back and hired the same guy they passed over?
 
Who cares? (sorry, that's the cynic talking.)

Hawkins was riding high on his success at Boise as a head coach. He was the "home run" hire who didn't work out.

How often do you get to go back and do it over right? Maybe CU is ready for JE and vice versa.
 
cu2x said:
JE and hawk were the finalists last time and JE was "heartbroken" (today's BDC) when he didn't get the job.

How often, if ever, has a major program chosen 1 of 2 finalists, declared him a failure and fired him after several years AND then gone back and hired the same guy they passed over?
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I don't think going back to your runner up is a big deal. What is odd is being the only school who is interested in your pick. Now, maybe that means you are just smarter than everyone else and know or see something that nobody else sees. Maybe it turns out to be a home run. Who knows? But it is odd.
 
I like the pick. The Hawk pick was widely praised by the media. he failed miserably. This pick will be widely criticized. Lets hope the opposites continue.
 
SnowBuff said:
I like the pick. The Hawk pick was widely praised by the media. he failed miserably. This pick will be widely criticized. Lets hope the opposites continue.
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one can hope. as a consistent detractor of the "in the family" emphasis for months and having thrown around the names Mike Shula and John Blake as cautionary tales....I don't see JE being a Blake type disaster. I think Embree's teams will be solid, if unspectacular at first. what the ceiling is and where the talent level ends up remains a big question to me. I don't think with JE this will be a quick turnaround, more like a couple 6 (maybe 5, maybe 7) win seasons with the players in the program and then, barring a superstar recruit (like at QB: a Cam Newton, Josh Heupel, or Chase Daniel)....that can patch over the holes with exceptional, "x factor" type play while the depth and defense continue to improve underneath the surface (Pinkel would be a good example here)....it's going to be a "Long Revolution", to quote a phrase.....we either take the next step or don't.

I'm not sure on our list there was a guy who could come in, take the current roster, and win 8 games with next year's schedule. I do think there are guys who could have won 7 or maybe 8 with this year's team and schedule. All it takes for 7 is hold serve at home against an average Tech team and a BU team that was more of a media darling with a great player (lost to Tech, win in Austin not so impressive anymore, and cupcake OOC)...than legit. and of course, @KU.
 
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It is weird, but maybe we just chose the wrong guy. Being "passed over" the first time isn't an indictment of Embree. If anything, that's CU's bad.

cu2x said:
JE and hawk were the finalists last time and JE was "heartbroken" (today's BDC) when he didn't get the job.

How often, if ever, has a major program chosen 1 of 2 finalists, declared him a failure and fired him after several years AND then gone back and hired the same guy they passed over?
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Not college football related, I know, but I know of at least 2 or 3 cases in Italy where a team fired Guy A, hired Guy B, fired Guy B a couple of months later and rehired Guy A.
 
cu2x said:
JE and hawk were the finalists last time and JE was "heartbroken" (today's BDC) when he didn't get the job.

How often, if ever, has a major program chosen 1 of 2 finalists, declared him a failure and fired him after several years AND then gone back and hired the same guy they passed over?
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Nebraska did it with Pelini
 
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