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OU demands removal of Dan Beebe as commisoner if they stay

JimmyBuff

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I like where this is headed!!!
The University of Oklahoma is considering remaining in the Big 12, but only in a “reformed” version of the conference that includes hard and fast rules for Texas' Longhorn Network and removal of Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe, a high-ranking Big 12 source told The Oklahoman on Tuesday.

Read more: http://newsok.com/source-removal-of...ong-ous-demands/article/3605958#ixzz1YWevVYpM

OU president David Boren said Monday the Sooners would decide soon between applying for Pac-12 membership or staying in the Big 12, and the source outlined the parameters for remaining in the Big 12.
“It's going to take major, major reforms” for OU, and thus Oklahoma State, to consider remaining in the Big 12, the source said. “We'd have to have an interim commissioner.”
The source said the league presidents do not believe Beebe responded with adequate leadership to Nebraska's and Texas A&M's frustration. The Big 12 has lost three members in the last 15 months, and “the relationships were so bad (with) the commissioner,” the source said.
The other reform the Sooners demand is Texas and ESPN retreating on some its plans for the Longhorn Network. The UT/ESPN partnership angered Big 12 members on two counts: 1) the network reached an agreement with Fox Sports to move a conference game to the Longhorn Network; and 2) The Longhorn Network announced it would show high school highlights even after the conference voted to keep televised high school games off school-branded networks.


 
Despite my fears of the texas cancer joing the 12 pac, I find this **** awesome.
 
OU makes its move, want Beebe fired, LHN changed if they are to stay

http://newsok.com/breaking-removal-...ds/article/3605958?custom_click=breaking_news

Pretty strong quotes on Beebe

The University of Oklahoma is considering remaining in the Big 12, but only in a “reformed” version of the conference that includes hard and fast rules for Texas' Longhorn Network and removal of Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe, a high-ranking Big 12 source told The Oklahoman on Tuesday.

“It's going to take major, major reforms” for OU, and thus Oklahoma State, to consider remaining in the Big 12, the source said. “We'd have to have an interim commissioner.”

The source said the league presidents do not believe Beebe responded with adequate leadership to Nebraska's and Texas A&M's frustration. The Big 12 has lost three members in the last 15 months, and “the relationships were so bad (with) the commissioner,” the source said.

The source said it is not inevitable that OU and OSU will go to the Pac-12, even though the OU regents support the move.

“No one wants to give up on it,” an OSU source said of the Big 12. The problems have “nothing to do with finances. It has nothing to do with success. For the league to be falling apart, it's crazy.”

The source said OU's goal is not to run the Big 12. He said OU's goal is to not have any school run the conference.

And the impression has been that Texas, via Beebe, has run roughshod over the Big 12.

“The perception is, he answers only to one school,” the source said. “That does not work.”

The source said Beebe made the decision that appeasing Texas was the Big 12's best hope for stability. “He made the wrong decision,” the source said. Instead, that led to instability, with the departure of Nebraska and now A&M.

The source said Big 12 presidents view Beebe as a commissioner serving only one school, Texas. They lay Nebraska's departure in June 2010 at the feet of Beebe.

“When a commissioner has a tin ear to what's happening in Nebraska and doesn't get himself up there…” the source said.

Ironically, the source said, Texas supported another candidate for commissioner four years ago, when Beebe was hired, while OU supported Beebe.

The source also said Beebe left items off the conference agenda that could have helped corral The Longhorn Network, such as a conference game being televised.

“The best commissioner's a consensus builder,” the source said. “We need a consensus-builder commissioner.

“You take the Big Ten, SEC, the Pac-12, their conference office runs circles around our conference in capability, not to mention bias. This commissioner totally cost us Texas A&M.”
 
OU's foot is out the door if they know they have an invite. This is all about making OU look good before they bolt.
 
Well what a shocker! There's a perception that Beebe is Dodds' poolboy. Who'd a thunk it?
 
Once, Germany issued a similar statement to Poland. Only this time, instead of invading if its demands are not met, Germany is going on vacation to California.
 
If OU is in fact accepted and joins the PAC, why would the Presidents think about bringing on UT given this acrimony?
 
This is awesome, plus it's laying out some ground rules if UT wants to join any conference OU is joining (read: Pac-12).Of course, I hope they get everything they want and stay.
 
Agree, they're taking their parting shots and leaving.

Or there is more resistance in the PAC than was initially thought and adding OU and OSU is not the slam dunk that it was thought to be last week. In this case OU is either laying the groundwork for leaving OSU behind ("We tried, we really did, but couldn't make it happen and have no choice now but to go alone.") or is using the threat of going to the PAC, knowing that it isn't actually happening, to insure that UT isn't calling the shots in the "new" Big XII.
 
Personally, I think OU has just upgraded this to a serious pissing contest with UT. They know UT needs them to keep the LHN, and they know if they leave to the Pac 12 then UT has to give up the LHN to follow. Serious guantlet dropping going on.
 
Or there is more resistance in the PAC than was initially thought and adding OU and OSU is not the slam dunk that it was thought to be last week. In this case OU is either laying the groundwork for leaving OSU behind ("We tried, we really did, but couldn't make it happen and have no choice now but to go alone.") or is using the threat of going to the PAC, knowing that it isn't actually happening, to insure that UT isn't calling the shots in the "new" Big XII.

I don't see that at all. OU is trying to get UT in order to save the Big 12. If they don't share something with the LHN they'll take Okie State with them to the Pac 12.
 
This whole realignment is more fun, crazy and dramatic than jerry Springer! Are OU and UT going break up? "way to speak your mind OU! You go girl! Kick that Beebe to the curb!"
 
So the question is: what happens if they do fire Beebe and give in to OU's demands? Do they stay? If so, then it can be argued that it is OU that is running the conference - a direct contradiction of their stated purpose here.
 
OU can go to the Pac and get equal revenue but will have to fight through a 16 team conference to get to MNC. If they can get Texas to share revenue, they get to wade through a revamped Big 12 and essentially only have to compete with UT for conference championships every year.

The problem is they picked this fight too late. With the ACC going to 14 and the SEC essentially at 13, even if UT caves I don't see a revamped Big 12 lasting even if they get back to 12.
 
So the question is: what happens if they do fire Beebe and give in to OU's demands? Do they stay? If so, then it can be argued that it is OU that is running the conference - a direct contradiction of their stated purpose here.

OU is no UT...that is the first thing that comes to mind. OU still ruled the Big 12 in football even if UT tried to prevent that from happening.
 
So the question is: what happens if they do fire Beebe and give in to OU's demands? Do they stay? If so, then it can be argued that it is OU that is running the conference - a direct contradiction of their stated purpose here.

That´s if OU is acting on its own here. Which I doubt.

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B12 presidents gave Dan Beebe a 4 year extension until 2015 in June. He´s got about 4m left on his contract.
 
OU can go to the Pac and get equal revenue but will have to fight through a 16 team conference to get to MNC. If they can get Texas to share revenue, they get to wade through a revamped Big 12 and essentially only have to compete with UT for conference championships every year.

The problem is they picked this fight too late. With the ACC going to 14 and the SEC essentially at 13, even if UT caves I don't see a revamped Big 12 lasting even if they get back to 12.

This is significant.

In addition just like CU wants to stay connected with the west coast now that we are in the PAC OU would rather stay connected with Texas. Our biggest alumni base outside of Colorado and a significant source of donations is in California. OU can say exactly the same about Texas. Their alumni core outside of Oklahoma is in Dallas and Houston. If their conference revenue issues can be taken care of and they feel like they can get a fair shake their preference is to stay with the Big XII.
 
The most refreshing thing to me is schools actually growing a pair and not accepting whats been going on.
 
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