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OU in full damage control, "P12 flirt was all about leverage"

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Yes, of course, you were just using the Pac and never really wanted to leave. Of course.

Oklahoma and Oklahoma State seemed headed to the Pac-12 on Monday.

By Tuesday night, their westward journey was halted before it got started.

What happened?

A high-ranking source from OU told The Oklahoman on Wednesday that both schools have actually been working behind the scenes to sell Big 12 reform to other schools in the conference.

“But frankly, we wanted the impression out there that we might go to the Pac-12 because that gave us some leverage,” the source said. “We were using that as leverage to say, ‘Hey, you want us to stay? Let's have some of these reforms.'”

Among the changes: removing of Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe; adopting common rules for individual networks like the Longhorn Network; phasing in revenue sharing from primary television rights; and requiring a commitment of rights of more than five years from conference schools, which would commit all of their game revenues to the Big 12 during that time and make moving to another league difficult to impossible.

Those are the main issues that the Big 12's board of directors will discuss during a meeting Thursday afternoon.

The OU source believes that many of the reforms have the support of enough of the schools' presidents and chancellors to be approved.

The behind-the-scenes lobbying of OU and OSU began gaining traction in recent days. Yet as it did, there was a sense their leverage might be slipping. The OU source said there was a shift in the mood of Pac-12 leaders, largely because Texas was pushing to get special concessions and exemptions for its network.

So, on Tuesday morning, OU and OSU let the Pac-12 know that it wouldn't be applying for membership.

“Really, we kind of hoped that the announcement ... wouldn't come for another day or so,” the OU source said. “Every day we had gave us a little more leverage to talk about these reforms.”

But the Pac-12 issued a statement Tuesday evening saying it had no intentions to expand.

“They put out their statement because they thought ... Texas was going to stiff them again,” the source said.

When conference realignment talk heated up in the summer of 2010, Texas started the conversation with the Pac-12, meeting with the conference for four or five months, approaching OU and Texas A&M and others about heading West.

Then the Longhorns abruptly ended it, according to the OU source, announcing they weren't going to the Pac-12 before they'd even notified the league's leaders.

“They really felt burned,” the source said. “They told us in the future they don't think they're ever really going to want to do business with Texas.

“They're very angry with Texas.”

But ultimately, reforming and stabilizing the Big 12 was the goal for OU and OSU all along.

“We've been playing a bit of poker,” the OU source said. “That hand was a lot stronger (Tuesday) than (Wednesday), but so many things are already agreed to.

“If they'll all keep their word at the meeting (Thursday), we will have some substantial reforms and substantial stability.”


Read more: http://newsok.com/source-ous-preferred-reformed-big-12-all-along/article/3606281#ixzz1YcUpz82n
 
Of course, threaten to leave B12-2-1 and go to P12 to get negotiating leverage for reforms to B12-2-1, demand reforms to B12-2-1, have P12 publicly tell you no thanks before you get said reforms. Got it. Makes perfect sense.

I wonder if Bevo has told Boren to let go of his ankles yet?
 
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Of course, threaten to leave B12-2-1 and go to P12 to get negotiating leverage for reforms to B12-2-1, demand reforms to B12-2-1, have P12 publicly tell you no thanks before you get said reforms. Got it. Makes perfect sense.

I wonder if Bevo has told Boren to let go of his ankles yet?

That is exactly what I was thinking. If that's how they negotiate, they suck at negotiating.
 
"No, really honey, I was only trying to get this other woman into bed because I love you so much. I was just trying to make our relationship better. Really, I was!"
 
OU is in a tough spot. I don't think they really wanted to go to the Pac 12 because of geography issues and they didn't want to touch the SEC. So they have to do whatever they can to try and tame Texas and fix the Big 12. Its a tough assignment.
 
OU is in a tough spot. I don't think they really wanted to go to the Pac 12 because of geography issues and they didn't want to touch the SEC. So they have to do whatever they can to try and tame Texas and fix the Big 12. Its a tough assignment.

If texas would put 1/10th the effort in mending fences that they do pounding their chests it just might happen.
 
There is no way that the Big12-2-1 survives after the last week. It was tenuous before last week, but its over now. This is not going to be an amicable divorce. Reminds me of War of the Roses.
 
What is the "source" going to say on Friday when Mizzou is outta there?
 
Full disclosure: re-posted from shaggybevo

this should make the "HERE ARE OUR CONDITIONS TO STAY" negotiations really fun

OU: "Firstly, we want Dan Beebe fired!"
Texas: "No."
OU: "Moving on! Secondly we want a cut of the Longhorn Network!"
Texas: "No."
OU: "Harrumph! We demand an increase in our bag of dicks subsidy!"
Texas: "That we can do, you can have A&M's share once they're bent over the pinball machine in the SEC."

:rofl:
 
I think it´s a real shame neither LB nor UBT are here regularly anymore to tell us what *truly* happened and how this is all part of OU´s master plan for world domination. :lol:
 
It will be interesting to hear what 'reforms' are actually made, probably squat ****.

I thought I heard ESPN say something about a Kansas legislature meeting moved up from tomorrow to today regarding conference issues. Any one else catch that? I wonder if BEAST has come a courting.
 
What is the "source" going to say on Friday when Mizzou is outta there?


There is some sentiment down here that Mizzery will stay. I believe the feeling is that the meetings will result in an agreement to equal revenue sharing of tier 1 and 2 tv rights, and a much higher buy-out clause. I'm pretty sure tier 1 is espin (and the contract is up in about a year -- read renegotiation) and tier 2 is FOX, leaving only tier 3 (yes, the bevo banter channel) networks available for individual schools. A conference network would prolly end up on tier 3, but most think bevo won't give up his hay bale, and there may not be enough clout to change that.

I dunno wispy. I kinda think Mizzery's decision could go either way.
 
"No, really honey, I was only trying to get this other woman into bed because I love you so much. I was just trying to make our relationship better. Really, I was!"

That line has to have worked for someone, somewhere. :lol:
 
"No, really honey, I was only trying to get this other woman into bed because I love you so much. I was just trying to make our relationship better. Really, I was!"

You had a king size bed for that rendezvous Junc... I hope?
 
hopefully Scott reads that and remembers OU in a few years when they are begging to come to the PAC again. Seems like OU may be burning their bridges with any future relationship with the PAC. **** em!
 
OU can kiss my ass. They spent the majority of the last 15-16 years burning the bridges of alliance that had been in place for 75+ years prior to the start of the Big 12 conference. They kowtowed to the UTerus' wants and whims at every juncture because the UTerus wanted to move the entirety of the power base to the southern half of the conference. Only now that the power base is shifting a little too far south for their liking are NOW they're raising a red flag and saying things aren't fair. Guess what, buttercup? You reap what the **** you sow. If you spend all this time cultivating the Bevo ego, you're going to have to deal with the ramifications of it running wild when it gets too big for you to handle. I hope they do get their Sooner Network, and I hope it fails just as miserably as the Longhorn Network is right now, then I hope ESPN demands repayment for it and that it bankrupts them. Then they can come back to us in 5 years, kiss Larry Scott's ring, and suck the rest of our dicks in hopes that we'll let them in our league.

But I'm not bitter at all.
 
I think it´s a real shame neither LB nor UBT are here regularly anymore to tell us what *truly* happened and how this is all part of OU´s master plan for world domination. :lol:

I guess I will play...

Of course I have about as much inside information into the workings of the OU athletic department as anyone else here. I have never gotten the sense that OU had any intention other than trying to do what was best for OU. I think that was the same motivation CU had for leaving the B12 if I recall. Perhaps it is crimson colored glasses I am looking through, but I don't think OU is not a bad conference partner. You may not like to travel to Norman, but it couldn't too much different than Columbus; I'm driving 10 hours to get there.

I think OU has had enough of tu... just like nubs and atm. Their attempt to leave the conference (which I really think they would have done, given the chance) or strengthen the dysfunctional B12-- was and is in their best interest. Personally, as I wrote yesterday, I think the best thing for OU is a strong B12, even if it does mean with ut. But ut will have to, at some point realize that they have to set conditions for an entire conference to succeed. If they want to be the big guy on the block, they will have to ensure they continue to have little skinny kids to pick on.

There is a good reason Oklahoma is so windy... Kansas Blows and Texas SUCKS.
 
hopefully Scott reads that and remembers OU in a few years when they are begging to come to the PAC again. Seems like OU may be burning their bridges with any future relationship with the PAC. **** em!

You don't think for a moment that these "sources" are as reliable as the "sources" have been throughout this entire saga, do you?

The only realignment that has come true over the past few weeks is the realignment that wasn't rumored... SU and Pitt to the ACC. :huh:
 
Generally I have no real animosity towards OU and UT. I am just glad CU got out of the same conference. The idea of having them back in the same conference was annoying. CU has, at times, been competitive with both, but they just have a certain "way" about them, especially the horns. I am far more excited about the opportunities for roadies and Pac 12 amenities than I am about getting away from UT and OU. It was a lot of fun to see them swinging their dicks around, only to have them caught in the slamming door leading to Larry Scott's office.
 
Maybe Larry Scott made those phone calls and released the "not expanding" statement so he could get some real work done. Close the door, no meetings, no calls in thru the admin assistants, etc.

I dunno, but it seems kinda suspicious to me. I think he's up to something.
 
Man, OU really used us. I'm sure now that they have zero options and leverage, they'll be getting everything they want.
 
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