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If you were AD... MacIntyre's job security

BerkeleyBuff said:
I'm not quite sure I'd feel comfortable saying that yet. There's only so many of those coaches that are available any given year, and we definitely don't pay at elite levels.
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I’m not sure how much we’re willing to pay.
 
BerkeleyBuff said:
I'm not quite sure I'd feel comfortable saying that yet. There's only so many of those coaches that are available any given year, and we definitely don't pay at elite levels.
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Totally agree...over paying some retread like Sumlin and we know CU isn't going poaching.
 
CU did not have MikeMac’s back when they should have. CU tarnished MikeMac and RG’s reputations when CU should have taken the fall. I am basing this off the posts on this site about how he followed the correct procedures to which he was trained, but CU held him to a standard to which he wasn’t even trained. If I'm MikeMac, I’m still pissed. Hard to work for someone you can’t trust.

If this post is off base, then someone please let me know.
 
CUFan said:
CU did not have MikeMac’s back when they should have. CU tarnished MikeMac and RG’s reputations when CU should have taken the fall. I am basing this off the posts on this site about how he followed the correct procedures to which he was trained, but CU held him to a standard to which he wasn’t even trained. If I'm MikeMac, I’m still pissed. Hard to work for someone you can’t trust.

If this post is off base, then someone please let me know.
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I feel like Dr. Phil threw them both under the bus instead of taking responsibility -- despite him being the person who actually knew the policy and gave RG & MM the wrong direction. All I can say about that which might be a positive is that it could result in Phil giving payback by being about the most supportive Chancellor we could hope for. Especially since he's now tied his legacy and reputation to the athletic department by publicly taking credit for RG's work and then agreeing to become Chair of the new Pac-12 revenue committee.
 
CUFan said:
CU did not have MikeMac’s back when they should have. CU tarnished MikeMac and RG’s reputations when CU should have taken the fall. I am basing this off the posts on this site about how he followed the correct procedures to which he was trained, but CU held him to a standard to which he wasn’t even trained. If I'm MikeMac, I’m still pissed. Hard to work for someone you can’t trust.

If this post is off base, then someone please let me know.
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Well, he accepted the extension when he could have said no and walked after this year.
 
chitownbuff said:
Worry about what - who he’s going to hire for his staff after MM leaves? I’m probably too optimistic, but I envision a scenario where MM goes back home and Chiv takes this program to a new level with better recruiting.
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I could see MM leaving after this season if CU keeps winning, and I’ll take Chev as HC in a heartbeat
 
With Jay graduating soon, one set of handcuffs come off.

MacIntyre came into Boulder with the reputation as a re-builder: Mission accomplished. He won the P12 South. He claimed CoTY.

MacIntyre’s agent has a lot with which to work to make Coach wealthier.

Proud programs like Tennessee or Arkansas might be looking for a turn-around artist, and both have brinks trucks full of cash to offer.

Colorado comes across a either a stepping stone or a graveyard for coaching careers.

When opportunity comes knocking, and it does come knocking, it is going to take a love of community, a good relationship with his university bosses, and a fair counter offer to retain MacIntyre.

Additional pressures exist, including the retention of Rick George, who is getting offers of his own to explore (eg Illinois). Also the clock is winding down on the careers of President Benson and Chancellor DiStephano. A change at higher levels of the org chart has the potential to nudge MacIntyre one way or the other.

There seems to be a comfy equilibrium right now. The fans, CU leadership, and MacIntyre appear to be in a good place. The facilities are great. The stadium is filling up. The team is competing and finally looking like a P5 tream makes top 25 appearances.

My hope is for MacIntyre to dream of a winning record while af CU, getting the USC monkey off CU’s back, a Rose Bowl victory, a P12 championship, a playoff run, and the use of Boulder as fertile ground to develop his coaching tree.

I love what Chev is doing as a recruiter and OC. But I have doubts about how connected Chev is when it comes to developing a Rolodex full of quality assistants and coordinators of his own (Like MacIntyre has with Cutcliff). It would be cool for Chev to take a few years under Sabin as an OC, get another network to draw upon, and then return to CU as a super connected HC after MacIntyre nabs a natty around 2023.
 
Clean Undies said:
With Jay graduating soon, one set of handcuffs come off.

MacIntyre came into Boulder with the reputation as a re-builder: Mission accomplished. He won the P12 South. He claimed CoTY.

MacIntyre’s agent has a lot with which to work to make Coach wealthier.

Proud programs like Tennessee or Arkansas might be looking for a turn-around artist, and both have brinks trucks full of cash to offer.

Colorado comes across a either a stepping stone or a graveyard for coaching careers.

When opportunity comes knocking, and it does come knocking, it is going to take a love of community, a good relationship with his university bosses, and a fair counter offer to retain MacIntyre.

Additional pressures exist, including the retention of Rick George, who is getting offers of his own to explore (eg Illinois). Also the clock is winding down on the careers of President Benson and Chancellor DiStephano. A change at higher levels of the org chart has the potential to nudge MacIntyre one way or the other.

There seems to be a comfy equilibrium right now. The fans, CU leadership, and MacIntyre appear to be in a good place. The facilities are great. The stadium is filling up. The team is competing and finally looking like a P5 tream makes top 25 appearances.

My hope is for MacIntyre to dream of a winning record while af CU, getting the USC monkey off CU’s back, a Rose Bowl victory, a P12 championship, a playoff run, and the use of Boulder as fertile ground to develop his coaching tree.

I love what Chev is doing as a recruiter and OC. But I have doubts about how connected Chev is when it comes to developing a Rolodex full of quality assistants and coordinators of his own (Like MacIntyre has with Cutcliff). It would be cool for Chev to take a few years under Sabin as an OC, get another network to draw upon, and then return to CU as a super connected HC after MacIntyre nabs a natty around 2023.
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Arky just cast their lot with Morris. They won't be making a move for at least 3 years. Ditto Tennessee IIRC.
 
Duff Man said:
I hope he stays, I just do not think he is irreplaceable. Gus Malzahn should be a cautionary tale here.
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This!

The idea he is the only option at CU for success is absurd. I’ve often said, and I still hold this opinion, he may be like Tommy Bowden at Clemson. Righted the ship and had success but couldn’t break through.

And I would still be thankful for Mac’s time here and what he accomplished.

Yes, CU is not a top 10 “destination” school but, with what Mac has put into the program, I would say it’s arguably top 25, and with that CU can look nation wide for not only a good fit but a coach that has some “street cred”, for lack of a better phrase.
 
4DemBuffs said:
This!

The idea he is the only option at CU for success is absurd. I’ve often said, and I still hold this opinion, he may be like Tommy Bowden at Clemson. Righted the ship and had success but couldn’t break through.

And I would still be thankful for Mac’s time here and what he accomplished.

Yes, CU is not a top 10 “destination” school but, with what Mac has put into the program, I would say it’s arguably top 25, and with that CU can look nation wide for not only a good fit but a coach that has some “street cred”, for lack of a better phrase.
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Would they go get a " Big time" coach?
 
Sykobuff said:
Would they go get a " Big time" coach?
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You’re going to have to ask Rick George that question. I would be willing to bet that would be his goal.

Problem is, how do you define “big time” coach? Is it Chev as an up and comer? Is it an established coach at a lower division? Coordinator or head coach? Only someone from a power 5...

We are all going to have our opinions on that answer. CU “could” get Dabo Sweeney but, I think he’d be a terrible fit for CU. To be obnoxious about it. But, it would certainly be a “big time” hire.
 
win, win, win. it cures everything.

oh, and i wouldn't worry too much about whether CU is going to pay -- they will pay-- either mm or someone else... this is not a deal where CU will try to go to sec numbers but CU will be competitive in salary.
 
Liver said:
win, win, win. it cures everything.

oh, and i wouldn't worry too much about whether CU is going to pay -- they will pay-- either mm or someone else... this is not a deal where CU will try to go to sec numbers but CU will be competitive in salary.
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It's looking like we are in a good situation. This off-season will be fine one way or another
 
Clean Undies said:
With Jay graduating soon, one set of handcuffs come off.

MacIntyre came into Boulder with the reputation as a re-builder: Mission accomplished. He won the P12 South. He claimed CoTY.

MacIntyre’s agent has a lot with which to work to make Coach wealthier.

Proud programs like Tennessee or Arkansas might be looking for a turn-around artist, and both have brinks trucks full of cash to offer.

Colorado comes across a either a stepping stone or a graveyard for coaching careers.

When opportunity comes knocking, and it does come knocking, it is going to take a love of community, a good relationship with his university bosses, and a fair counter offer to retain MacIntyre.

Additional pressures exist, including the retention of Rick George, who is getting offers of his own to explore (eg Illinois). Also the clock is winding down on the careers of President Benson and Chancellor DiStephano. A change at higher levels of the org chart has the potential to nudge MacIntyre one way or the other.

There seems to be a comfy equilibrium right now. The fans, CU leadership, and MacIntyre appear to be in a good place. The facilities are great. The stadium is filling up. The team is competing and finally looking like a P5 tream makes top 25 appearances.

My hope is for MacIntyre to dream of a winning record while af CU, getting the USC monkey off CU’s back, a Rose Bowl victory, a P12 championship, a playoff run, and the use of Boulder as fertile ground to develop his coaching tree.

I love what Chev is doing as a recruiter and OC. But I have doubts about how connected Chev is when it comes to developing a Rolodex full of quality assistants and coordinators of his own (Like MacIntyre has with Cutcliff). It would be cool for Chev to take a few years under Sabin as an OC, get another network to draw upon, and then return to CU as a super connected HC after MacIntyre nabs a natty around 2023.
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I call bull**** on the “Colorado is a
stepping stone” bull****.
 
Duff Man said:
Most college football jobs are stepping stones.
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Maybe. But some more than others. CSU and Wyoming fit my definition of “stepping stone” jobs. CU certainly could be but it depends on the coach.
 
DBT said:
Maybe. But some more than others. CSU and Wyoming fit my definition of “stepping stone” jobs. CU certainly could be but it depends on the coach.
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There are a lot of P5 jobs which fit the description.
 
4DemBuffs said:
Yes, CU is not a top 10 “destination” school but, with what Mac has put into the program, I would say it’s arguably top 25, and with that CU can look nation wide for not only a good fit but a coach that has some “street cred”, for lack of a better phrase.
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I don't think it is Top 25 yet but it will be by the time Mac leaves for the greener pastures of the SEC or ACC.
 
So should we be worried about potential openings at Louisville, wake forest, North Carolina and Georgia tech? I could see him being interested in all of those other than wake forest.
 
onealcd said:
So should we be worried about potential openings at Louisville, wake forest, North Carolina and Georgia tech? I could see him being interested in all of those other than wake forest.
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I think he's still got work to do here but if things pan out he'll go back home. He is after all a southern Christian conservative living in Boulder.
 
cu62nu36 said:
I don't think it is Top 25 yet but it will be by the time Mac leaves for the greener pastures of the SEC or ACC.
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I think that’s fair. However, I said it was arguably a top 25 job and there are definitely some programs in the ACC/SEC that would not be greener pastures for Mac.

That being said, it’s my opinion only and if Mac puts together another 10 win season, he is going to have a decision to make. There will be people knocking on his door. Only he can determine what his right fit is. He may very well decide it’s Colorado.
 
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