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Darth Snow said:
option 1: we lose a game, discussion irrelevant.
option 2: we win all the games, discussion irrelevant because there is no way an undefeated P12 champ isn't in the playoff.

Conclusion: Discussion remains silly. ESPN is stupid. (2d post in this thread already, arggh)
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Dunno if I'd say irrelevant-I think the only team in the country that I'd be stunned to see lose this season is Alabama.
 
Undefeated ND
Undefeated Clemson
Undefeated tOSU
Undefeated UGA (beats Bama by late FG)
One loss Bama.

Pick four.
 
hawg1 said:
Undefeated ND
Undefeated Clemson
Undefeated tOSU
Undefeated UGA (beats Bama by late FG)
One loss Bama.

Pick four.
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This would almost assuredly result in the expansion to 6 CFP teams the following season. All of those programs have enough pull and would raise enough hell to ensure it never happens again.
 
onealcd said:
There should only be three undefeated teams at the end of the year, Bama/Georgia, Notre Dame and Clemson. I just don't see a Big-10 team making it through unscathed there is no way Colorado goes undefeated. So the last spot will come down to a on loss Big-10 team, one loss Big-12 team and maybe a one loss Washington.
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Clemson won't be undefeated.
 
ahoelsken said:
I don't think Georgia will be either. In fact, I think UGA loses Saturday in Baton Rouge.
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I'm rooting for Georgia, because of all the SEC garbage, I consider them the least of the garbage (and their school is ranked pretty well academically). But I'm not going to disagree with your prognosis. In fact, i do hope at some point UGA loses...then beats Bama in the CCG.
 
Alabama will be undefeated, unless hell freezes over. Clemson is getting better every week I've seen them, so they are a good bet as well. I'm not sure Blowhio State will be, they should've dropped one already, they didn't though. Georgia, I just don't know?
 
CUAviator said:
I'm rooting for Georgia, because of all the SEC garbage, I consider them the least of the garbage (and their school is ranked pretty well academically). But I'm not going to disagree with your prognosis. In fact, i do hope at some point UGA loses...then beats Bama in the CCG.
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Okay here's a hypothetical-let's say Alabama and two of Ohio State, Clemson, and Notre Dame finish undefeated. Then, let's say Georgia goes into the SEC championship game at 12-0 and then loses to Alabama (doesn't really matter how IMO), and let's say we finish the regular season 11-1 (with the loss coming next week at Washington) and then win the Pac 12 championship. You can switch us out for West Virginia in this scenario. They're taking the Big 12 champ or the Pac 12 champ in that scenario. Doesn't matter what Heather Dinich or any other "expert" ESPN puts out there says. Unless they don't have another viable option-they're not taking two SEC teams. The CFP took two teams from the SEC last year because they HAD to.
 
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Uncle Luko said:
Alabama will be undefeated, unless hell freezes over. Clemson is getting better every week I've seen them, so they are a good bet as well. I'm not sure Blowhio State will be, they should've dropped one already, they didn't though. Georgia, I just don't know?
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Alabama and Georgia can't both be undefeated the day the CFP gets finalized. If they're both 12-0 at the end of the regular season, they'll play for the SEC championship.
 
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Clemson getting better every week? Their last game was good, and the one immediately prior was awful. They should have lost to Syracuse. Didn’t lead until the final seconds.
 
BerkeleyBuff said:
Clemson getting better every week? Their last game was good, and the one immediately prior was awful. They should have lost to Syracuse. Didn’t lead until the final seconds.
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Not sure if that was supposed to be a response to me-My point was more they took both Alabama and Georgia last year because there wasn't a viable alternative. They're not doing that again if they don't have to........regardless of what ESPN's so-called "playoff expert" Heather Dinich says..
 
J.R. Ewing said:
Yup. What does a play off team look like? Look at what Alabama did to a ~top 35 aTm. Look at what Notre Dame did to Stanford.
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Yeah no kidding. Also, look at what ND did to Ball State and Vandy. I mean, crush everyone and leave no doubt about who you are as a team right?

Or find some type of metric that accomplishes what you want - more eyeballs on the TV for those three "playoff" games. I am hoping CU keeps finding a way to win, even if it is by one point, in overtime or takes 5 downs to get it done, i don't really care. Just find a way to win the game in front of you, and if the powers that make the playoff team decisions decide the Buffs aren't what a playoff team looks like I will sit back and enjoy the backlash (and the thrashing CU puts on some Big14 pretender whining about not getting their shot at the playoff).
 
ahoelsken said:
Not sure if that was supposed to be a response to me-My point was more they took both Alabama and Georgia last year because there wasn't a viable alternative. They're not doing that again if they don't have to........regardless of what ESPN's so-called "playoff expert" Heather Dinich says..
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Sorry- it was meant as a reply to Luko.
 
ahoelsken said:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/24934752/not-all-undefeated-records-created-equal

Here's the link-SIAP. Let me say a couple things with it. FPI is a joke, and goofy computer indexes like it don't make up for watching teams play. There are also millions of these types of things out there nowadays-realtimerpi.com has us winning every remaining game but one.....at Washington. Two, the only way two SEC teams get in again are if the committee feels they don't have any other choice-a one loss SEC runner-up (let's say its Georgia) isn't getting in over Washington, Oklahoma, or Texas (if any of the three wins out) or us at 13-0 or 12-1 if we get there. Georgia's OOC (other than the rivalry game they coo about having to play every year) is a joke-Austin Peay (FCS opponent), UMass (glorified FCS opponent), and Middle Tennessee. Same thing with Alabama's-Arkansas State (Sun Belt team), ULaLa (Sun Belt team), The Citadel (FCS opponent), and Louisville at a neutral site (our win over Nebraska looks better).Three, she says its "highly unlikely" an undefeated Notre Dame misses out on the CFP-If Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and either us or West Virginia wins out, Notre Dame misses the playoff.
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I am with you on every point except the last one. An undefeated Notre Dame would get a spot before CU or West Virginia.
 
ahoelsken said:
Alabama and Georgia can't both be undefeated the day the CFP gets finalized. If they're both 12-0 at the end of the regular season, they'll play for the SEC championship.....;
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Uhh yeah, I know. It's not like we haven't seen the SEC get 2 regardless.
 
BerkeleyBuff said:
Clemson getting better every week? Their last game was good, and the one immediately prior was awful. They should have lost to Syracuse. Didn’t lead until the final seconds.
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Work in progress maybe, they can match anyone talent wise, especially on D. Young qb, takes time.
 
ahoelsken said:
Okay here's a hypothetical-let's say Alabama and two of Ohio State, Clemson, and Notre Dame finish undefeated. Then, let's say Georgia goes into the SEC championship game at 12-0 and then loses to Alabama (doesn't really matter how IMO), and let's say we finish the regular season 11-1 (with the loss coming next week at Washington) and then win the Pac 12 championship. You can switch us out for West Virginia in this scenario. Unless they don't have another viable option-they're not taking two SEC teams. The CFP took two teams from the SEC last year because they HAD to.
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It seems like people have forgotten what the CFP committee is like- they make this **** up as they go. Don't you remember every single explanation by the committee last year? The criteria seemed to change weekly. They could have justified a 10-2 Big10 champ Ohio State over Bama if they had wanted to, but they decided having two SEC teams meant more than even going to your conference championship. Hell- Wisconsin also only lost one game all year and it was in their conference championship. if they had sat at home that weekend like Alabama did they would have been 12-0. All I'm saying is, don't be shocked when two SEC teams make it again this year.
 
Denver_sc said:
It seems like people have forgotten what the CFP committee is like- they make this **** up as they go. Don't you remember every single explanation by the committee last year? The criteria seemed to change weekly. They could have justified a 10-2 Big10 champ Ohio State over Bama if they had wanted to, but they decided having two SEC teams meant more than even going to your conference championship. Hell- Wisconsin also only lost one game all year and it was in their conference championship. if they had sat at home that weekend like Alabama did they would have been 12-0. All I'm saying is, don't be shocked when two SEC teams make it again this year.
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Again, no viable alternatives. Wisconsin was out because they lost to Ohio State.....which leaves Alabama/Ohio State. Ohio State was out because they had a very ugly 2nd loss (55-24) to Iowa.
 
Uncle Luko said:
Uhh yeah, I know. It's not like we haven't seen the SEC get 2 regardless.
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See my response to Denver_sc. If you have 12-1 SEC non-champ Georgia vs. 12-1 Pac 12 champ Colorado/Washington or 12-1 Big 12 champ West Virginia, the latter will go.
 
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I do not think you can definitively say Georgia is out in that scenario. There are a lot of variables in how the teams end up 12-1.
 
Tony G. said:
I am with you on every point except the last one. An undefeated Notre Dame would get a spot before CU or West Virginia.
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That's not what 538 says. West Virginia is a near-lock to make the CFP if they win out (97%) and we're not far behind (94%). They're going to have to play Oklahoma or Texas twice, and we're going to have to play most likely Washington a second time.
 
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