I've been critical of the recruiting, but I'd have no problems taking a few 5.6 3*'s with sub-4.5 speed (assuming that's true) and offer lists like Dotson's. He's a legitimate BCS talent and I think the staff can have success with kids like this.
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'14 CA RB Jomon Dotson (Signed to Washington)
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I've been critical of the recruiting, but I'd have no problems taking a few 5.6 3*'s with sub-4.5 speed (assuming that's true) and offer lists like Dotson's. He's a legitimate BCS talent and I think the staff can have success with kids like this.
Iowa State is not a great repository of talent or a big-name program, I'll give you that.
On the other hand they are a legit BCS level program. This is about improving the program and considering that for the last few years we have been recruiting against Idaho State I'll take Iowa State offers as a step up. At least we are talking about guys who belong on the same field as the teams we are playing.
Iowa state is much better than we are right now, but that doesn't make them a good program or an offer that should impress anyone. Hell, CU is a terrible offer right now.
That's my point. I would hope that in a few years we are at a point where a kid with a CU offer would not even consider Iowa State but we have to win some games first. 6 and 7 with a bowl loss sucks unless you play for a team that went 1-11 and hasn't sniffed a bowl in years.
Same thing with Northwestern. You don't see their jerseys in malls all over the country but they have won a lot more than we have. It certainly isn't that same as a Michigan or Ohio State offer but they have talent that is a big step up from us right now.
I get that and don't disagree - I was simply responding to the shock by some earlier in this thread when it was suggested that Iowa State wasn't a great offer.
I don't think Northwestern and Iowa State are great offers. I was responding to a poster that said every offer but ASU was horrible. Reasonable people can conclude the offer list matches a mid-3* prospect pretty well. If Dotson is the only RB in the class, I think it is somewhat questionable. But he can be a nice 2nd or 3rd back in the class.
o_robbie
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Whoops. I missed those 2. Still doesn't change my mind much on the offer list. ISU is typically one of the doormats of the Big 12. Maybe I have higher standards but I don't think an offer list is good unless you have multiple programs offering you that are top 50 D1 schools. Looks to me like he doesn't.
o_robbie
I don't think before I post
I agree he would be a nice 2nd or 3rd RB. However if we are getting excited that he is our highest rated RB coming in then we have a problem. Looks like he is considered somewhere outside a top 75 RB when you average all the recruiting services. That's not going to cut it.
Really? #54-#61-#67= outside top 75? HMMM....
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Using F/+ adjusted numbers, here is his offer list (F/+ | Off F/+ | Off Score Rank)...
Arizona State: 41 | +2.7% | 14th (38.4 ppg)
Colorado: 124 | -14.6% | 120th (17.8 ppg)
Colorado State: 119 | -14.9% | 102nd (21.2 ppg)
Iowa State: 55 | +2.0% | 87th (24.5 ppg)
Nevada: 71 | +7.1% | 18th (37.8 ppg)
Northwestern: 29 | +5.8% | 42nd (31.7 ppg)
San Jose State: 32 | +7.4% | 29th (34.8 ppg)
So, two BCS schools in the overall top 50, and I don't have the average and rankings of all the offensive numbers, but looking at the list SJSU, ASU, NU, UN, and ISU were all right around average for the top 30 teams in offense for adjusted.
Even with ESPN's rating of being the #101 back (which is an outlier in this data), the average is the #71.75 RB, still within the top 75. Taking the median, he comes in as the #66 ranked back. For 247s' composite rankings, he comes in as the #51 rated back. So, there's really nothing I can see here that supports your argument.
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o_robbie
I don't think before I post
I didn't check to hard. I did see a 61 and a 67. The other two show NR on his front page not a 54. So I figured that put him outside the top 100. Thus, that is where I got an average outside 75. If he averages out to a top 60 RB then it isn't nearly as bad. Also agree that ESPN typically has there own ranking system and I don't think it is quite as accurate.
CVilleBuff
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I'd love to get Dotson on board. I see a good deal of upside here.
As for Northwestern and Iowa State, Northwestern won 10 games last year and ended the season 16th in the country. They've been to 5 straight bowls. Iowa State has been to bowls 3 of the last 4 seasons. These are schools consistently getting to bowls and even finding ways to get ranked. Any complaining about us recruiting alongside them given the hole HCMM is digging us out of is utterly asinine at this point in time.
As for Northwestern and Iowa State, Northwestern won 10 games last year and ended the season 16th in the country. They've been to 5 straight bowls. Iowa State has been to bowls 3 of the last 4 seasons. These are schools consistently getting to bowls and even finding ways to get ranked. Any complaining about us recruiting alongside them given the hole HCMM is digging us out of is utterly asinine at this point in time.
Smart, fast, good haircut. Want.
The kid can run.
Said awhile back that he was going to commit right after his first game of the season.
His first game of the season is this Saturday. I hope we get another #CUin14!
His first game of the season is this Saturday. I hope we get another #CUin14!
Wonder if he'll be the next to join CU. Won his HS opener tonight 38-22. Found a good story on American Canyon, below. Dotson's junior numbers are insane.
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http://recruiting.scout.com/2/1330186.html
Those with a Scout sub can check out this update from Jomon. Sounds like we are still in it...
Those with a Scout sub can check out this update from Jomon. Sounds like we are still in it...
FlatironsBuff
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Had some pretty good sized holes to run through. We would look much better in the run game with holes that big to run through. That said, he seems to just GO...and in a hurry. No dancing or indecision. Hits the hole and goes. Is up to speed very quickly. Catches the ball very well and when he does, turns it up and makes yards. Six foot, maybe six one when said and done, and a buck ninety to 200 in college? Sounds pretty damned good to me.
