one of the main reasons I wanted to know where those grades came from. Him and Adkins were turnstiles yet consistently graded high.
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2012 Offensive Line
- Thread starter Buffnik
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Depending on harris and other guys like kelley etc..could asiata possibly move to tackle or is he cemented at guard?
Asiata is a guard. Bakhtiari would move back to the outside before we would try Asiata there.
I don't think people appreciate how good Lewis looked last year. He just didn't have the weight to hold up at tackle. It should be no problem to get to the 285 or so that Bakhtiari played at.
JimmyBuff
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yeah maybe. I still think moving Bak to guard is risky. I don't care what offense you are running, I rather have my better offensive linemen at Tackle than guard.
It is risky. But it does make sense for two reasons.
1. Bakhtiari's future is at guard. He can be a very good tackle. He can be an all-american guard.
2. Much of our offense depends on our guards being able to pull, get out on screens, and get to the 2nd level on some of our blocking schemes. Bakhtiari is a game changer for us by having him in there.
As much as I agree with you about wanting our best OL at tackle (or center, imo), I'm also a big believer in starting our 5 best OLs. Lewis isn't a guard and he's a better lineman than all of the guards we have returning next year.
JimmyBuff
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Possible. If Bak can pull I can see why he would be a better fit in the offense with the running game. I'm keeping an open mind on it. If it gets the best OL on the field than its probably the best move.
Asiata and Munyer look to have a big battle looming at RG if Bak is at LG
Conventional wisdom is your best O-linemen play at tackle because they have to be able to handle both the bull rush and be able to protect against speed to the outside. Also DE's tend to be better athletes than DTs who are usually bigger but slower and less mobile.
The impression I get from hearing Embree talk and from seeing some of what he tried to do last year however is that he wants to run a scheme that forces the interior of the defense to move and take advantage of the reduced mobility. Shanahan did this for years in the NFL and Embree looks to copy a lot of what he learned from Shanny.
For this system you need guards who have excellent technique and mobility. The perfect example of this with Shanny was what he did with Schlereth on the Broncos. Bak could very well be this guy, the key to making the whole running game work.
The still have to protect the edges to have an effective mid to long passing game so if the other guys they have at tackles can't handle this they may have no choice but to use Bak outside but if they find their tackles I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Bak as an AA at guard.
The impression I get from hearing Embree talk and from seeing some of what he tried to do last year however is that he wants to run a scheme that forces the interior of the defense to move and take advantage of the reduced mobility. Shanahan did this for years in the NFL and Embree looks to copy a lot of what he learned from Shanny.
For this system you need guards who have excellent technique and mobility. The perfect example of this with Shanny was what he did with Schlereth on the Broncos. Bak could very well be this guy, the key to making the whole running game work.
The still have to protect the edges to have an effective mid to long passing game so if the other guys they have at tackles can't handle this they may have no choice but to use Bak outside but if they find their tackles I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Bak as an AA at guard.
So when you posted the grades, you should've mentioned that those were the highest grades received for any one game by the player, and not a grade for the whole season as your post inferred. Big difference.
I didn't post the initial grades, I just found them, and rather than retyping everything to correct the initial post, I thought it would be easier for everyone to see the results.
I find it a little interesting that they have Adkins grading out at 85 for the season and Bahktiari grading out at 84.4, and Miller at 83.3. They also only have 4 penalties listed for Adkins. It seemed like he had 4 penalties in the Utah game alone.
The Buffs gave up 31 sacks this year, with only 16 being credited to the O-line, which means TE, RB and QB were responsible for 15 sacks this past year.
After looking at all the numbers it does appear that Dannewitz was the weak link on the O-line giving up 10 penalties, 5 sacks, and 3 QB pressures.
Bahk is a guard, he was just our best option at tackle this year. I could give a damn about grades, my eyes work somewhat.
I still believe that Dannewitz has the talent to be a top OT at this level. Unfortunately he hasn't converted talent into production and the Hawkins regeim had a history of not developing players.
If Dannewitz is not substantially better next year than he was this year then we need somebody else out there because he will be a liability and the weak spot on the OL. If he can step it up and work and develop to his potential then he can be a solid member of the line. At this point I am not going to write him off but it is all on him to be a different player on the field or on the coaches to put somebody out there instead of him.
If Dannewitz is not substantially better next year than he was this year then we need somebody else out there because he will be a liability and the weak spot on the OL. If he can step it up and work and develop to his potential then he can be a solid member of the line. At this point I am not going to write him off but it is all on him to be a different player on the field or on the coaches to put somebody out there instead of him.
Those grades are 90% bull****.
You are 110% wrong.
83.5% of statistics are made up.
JimmyBuff
Well-Known Member
You got anything to back that up?
60% of the time our OL works all of the time.
Let me clarify: A grading system that grades adkins and dannewitz the highest has some serious flaws and cannot be relied upon except, perhaps, for knowledge of assignment.
Uhhhhhhh
You have to be trolling.
I bet your life kinda sucks.
It's made from real panther. So you know it's good.
Very cool pic that includes a member of the BHS class of 1986. :woot:
Do you honestly believe that Adkins was better than Bakhtiari?
