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Belk Bowl: Louisiville vs NC State

JimmyBuff said:
NC State has had a season where they won 11 games this decade. Has had winning seasons with Sheridan, Rein and Holtz.
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My comment was about Tom O'Brien. but since you're seemingly trying to argue that NCSU is a pretty good football school, I'll have to shoot you down.

They won 11 games in 2002 with Philip Rivers due to playing an OOC of East Tennessee State, New Mexico, UMass and Navy. They finished fourth in the ACC that year. They were ****** with O'Cain before that in the 90's, and since 2002 they've gone 8-5, 5-6, 7-5, 3-9, 5-7, 6-7, 5-7, 9-4 and now 8-5. NCSU is a basketball school.
 
CVilleBuff said:
My comment was about Tom O'Brien. but since you're seemingly trying to argue that NCSU is a pretty good football school, I'll have to shoot you down.

They won 11 games in 2002 with Philip Rivers due to playing an OOC of East Tennessee State, New Mexico, UMass and Navy. They finished fourth in the ACC that year. They were ****** with O'Cain before that in the 90's, and since 2002 they've gone 8-5, 5-6, 7-5, 3-9, 5-7, 6-7, 5-7, 9-4 and now 8-5. NCSU is a basketball school.
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New Mexico and Navy are Div 1 schools. Plus they played an ACC schedule. You want to throw out one of the games fine but its still a 10 win season. Not a lot of programs get those.

I think its an okay football school that ever once in awhile can win 9-10 games in a year. Better than average. Amato was a bad coach, good recruiter. With a decent coach they probably would have won a conference title with Rivers. (Rivers was a O'Cain commit too)
 
JimmyBuff said:
New Mexico and Navy are Div 1 schools. Plus they played an ACC schedule. You want to throw out one of the games fine but its still a 10 win season. Not a lot of programs get those.

I think its an okay football school that ever once in awhile can win 9-10 games in a year. Better than average.
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NCSU is the definition of an average football school. Even in their "good" years, it's the middle of the pack in the ACC for them. On paper, they should be better than they are. I like O'Brien and while he brings some stability and winning seasons, the Wolfpack can forget about taking it to the next level. Over the last 20 years I'd put NCSU about 8th in the ACC
 
NCSU had a nice Gator Bowl win over ND one year, might be the 11-win season that you're referring to.

Pretty good crowd considering it was a cold, damp, windy day yesterday and I'm sure last night was only worse. I was surprised at the amount of Louisville fans and tailgates around town yesterday, more than I would've expected. I think the only time this bowl has sold out is when the Big East participant was WV since they're they only football fan base in the BE that's worth a damm.
 
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