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Brian Cabral

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by sliderNcider, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    Are we in this situation if he didn't come in as interim in '10 and reinstitute Buff Pride/Traditions resulting in 2 emotional wins out of 3?
     
  2. DBT

    DBT Club Member Club Member

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    So, you are wondering if his "success" led the admin to believe we needed a coach from the successful era?
     
  3. CarolinaBuff

    CarolinaBuff Unintelligent and deplorable Club Member

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    I think it's more like this led the admin to believing we needed to hire someone who had previously been part of the CU family.
     
  4. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    Honestly... did we make a mistake by not hiring Cabral from the pool of candidates we had?
     
  5. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    Believe so
     
  6. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    I'm not sure if it could be any worse. But who would his assistants have been? Probably all former CU players (more than Embree's imo)
     
  7. TimmyDUBs

    TimmyDUBs Dirty haole Club Member

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    I talked to Cabral after those three games and asked him how he turned it around. He said he just brought back the fundamentals and had the team play the way they knew they could. Makes me think that Embree needs to simplify schemes and let the team play with instincts rather than being trapped in their heads, backyard football-style.
     
  8. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King Club Member

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    no
     
  9. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    Out of:

    Mac
    EB
    Embree
    Cabral

    I'd say the only one that would've done worse is EB. And even then it's pretty close.
     
  10. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    agree with Tini.
     
  11. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    I don't think he would have gone as crazy with the in-the-family hiring as we have.
     
  12. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    I think you would have seen Kiesau stay on OC (is that good or bad?). Hagan and Ambrose would have been kept on as well IMO. Low ceiling, but better than 3-10 last season.
     
  13. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    Ambrose wasnt all bad, really the only thing I'd object to there is Hagan.
     
  14. White_Rabbit

    White_Rabbit Club Member Club Member

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    I'd be vehemently opposed to Kiseau staying as OC. Dude has been straight awful as the OC for UW this year.
     
  15. Dunken

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    Still an interesting point. He did manage to win 2 out of 3 with Hawkins team.
     
  16. MtnBuff

    MtnBuff Not allowed in Barzil 2 Club Member

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    The idea of Cabral probably should have gotten more consideration. Like the guys we have, he lacks experience as a coordinator.

    On the other hand he has been successful recruiting, is respected by the players, and deals well with the head coach stuff off the field like media. A big advantage is that unlike Embree, EB, and to a lesser extent Brown he is a college guy with the college level contacts. He would have had a better probability of bringing in some guys with college level coordinator experience. He is much more in tune with the level of complexity that college players can handle and with motivating and influencing guys of that age group.
     
  17. buffaholic

    buffaholic Club Member Club Member

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    If EB wouldn't have come here and stayed in the NFL, we'd all be screaming that Bohn hired the wrong ex-Buff and that we needed to get EB here right now! Admit it.
     
  18. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    It definitely would have gone down that way. Good thing we hired both so we can close this chapter without any "what if's".
     
  19. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

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    you wouldnt have heard me say that - I thought from the start either Embo or EB was a bad idea.
     
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    "Winning 2 out of 3 to finish a season is the sign of an awesome football coach!"

    -Jon Embree
     
  21. buffsyko

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    Love cabral and his loyalty to CU but...his LB'S haven't been a solid unit nor have any of them stood out since dizon. We haven't recruited well at this position lately either.
     
  22. Sexton Hardcastle

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    I believe you said Embree was our J.Blake. iirc.
     
  23. Sexton Hardcastle

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    I was never too hyped about Embree. When rumors came out that they (Embo & EB) were the finalists, I supported Scooter.
     
  24. Bisonic

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    I've been concerned about this for a good 5 years. Cabral seems more suited to a traditional 4-3 scheme, circa 1980.

    He actually has a pretty solid core in Webb (overruns and bad field vision), Rippy (cannot stay on the field) and Major (injuries curtailing lateral movement).

    I just do not think his adjustment to the Pac 12 will be an easy one. Fact is, we need a coordinator who is just as smart as the top teams in the league. Brown is clearly not, and Cabral appears to have his unit on a different page.

    I go back to a quote from the days after the Sac State game. The coach (who does have a bright future) said "Well, we noticed the middle of the field always seemed to be open against CSU. So that was our scheme."

    Linebackers.
     
  25. Burrito Palazzo

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  26. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    We need to have an official opinions thread so we can keep track of this stuff, at least for next time
     
  27. BuffUp

    BuffUp Go Buffs Club Member

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    Cabral is better at developing the run stop linebackers used to stop run teams. Started recruiting smaller and faster linebackers to deal with the spread and zone read, has not worked out real well for him
     

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