Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by SteelCity Buff, Apr 6, 2013.
Not sure but Wood looks like a different player. Hope the light finally came on for him because he has all the tools to be successful.
Something about him makes me think he could be the one to step up (gotta avoid saying "I like Wood", that could cause s stir here on AB). Things seem to be clicking for many of the guys on offense, and I don't really care who steps up - so long as the coaches play the guys who give us the best shot at winning. I'm not sure where I missed it, but why didn't Webb get any reps?
I am firmly in the "anybody but Webb" camp. Pure speculation on my part, but, as others have observed before me, the WCO requires about a gazillion reps to get right. Going all the way back to when shortbus was here, the starting QB under GB, and then Embo, pretty much got all the practice reps. So when you put in the 2d or 3d guy, not only are they the 2d or 3d guy, they have probably gotten 5-10 % of the practice reps, best case scenario. Perhaps Wood is benefitting form an easier, more CFB friendly offense, and a staff that gives reps and develops it's QB's, instead of running a hypercomplicated O that pro QB's struggle to master...just a thought.
Thought above = wrong.
Wood got all the reps last spring. He got a lot of reps thru August and could not make it happen. He then lost confidence in himself.
I think it's more of a "system issue" and approach issue. He's a year older. He's got a totally different system. There's less thinking and more doing. Forget last year. This is ALL NEW. Sit back and watch. Wood is very confident right now and it's growing daily.
No sack rule.
I will hold off on any QB evaluation until I see what they do when they are actually getting hit because based on the last few years they are going to get hit a lot.
To answer the OP, yes if Wood can consistently be a 60% completion percentage QB then he can be an impact QB, but that's a big "if". Accuracy has been probably his biggest problem in the past.
????Sounds like we agree, the problem with Wood was system. I had forgotten he got all the reps last spring though... I have always, even back to the GB days, been critical of the WCO at the CFB level. Too much to learn with the CFB pratice limits. I haven't seen anything of the practifces, so I hope you are right and Wood is coming along. From what I saw last year, he has the best tools of the Webb, Wood, Hirsch trio. But, based purely on games last year, I would still go with Hirsch. He has limits, but Wood was wild last year. If he has that ironed out, maybe we'll see the player UT saw when they went recruiting.....
Anybody could have completed 60% of their passes against the defense I saw yesterday. Add in the fact that on about 1/2 of those completions CUD ran by the QB full speed. I think we are still in wait and see mode with the QB position.
Hard to draw comparisons from last year re: Wood. He had only 1 game (Fresno) where he attempted more than 7 passes. And the Fresno St offensive game plan will go down as one of the worst in CU history, he was NOT put in a position to succeed that day.
I think he has better mechanics than Hirsch, and is more mobile. But I'm more hoping that Dillon can improve his completion % because I still see him as our eventual starter.
You keep saying this about Dillon, but what are you basing this on exactly?
Basing it on not being a wet blanket debbie downer.
Admittedly, no one has seen him at QB for CU in a real game, but we've been talking about him for years, not about to jump ship because he's completing 50% of his passes in spring practice before his redshirt FR year.
I thought you were inferring he was eventually going to be the starter in 2013. My mistake.
I am not giving up on him at all, but I am not giving him a pass just due to youth and inexperience. He has work to do to make it at this level.
60% completion rate, 8 yards/attempt and 25 TD's to 10 INT's: difference maker
60% completion rate, 7 yards/attempt and 20 TD's to 15 INT's: serviceable
60% completion rate, 6 yards/attempt and 15 TD's to 15 INT's: mediocre
60% completion rate, 5 yards/attempt and 10 TD's to 15 INT's: god awful
So he can probably sustain that completion rate but as you can see above, it's a fairly meaningless stat.
I would like to start drinking the Wood kool-aid since he's the most physically gifted QB on the roster and has some running ability. Plus those numbers he put up yesterday were pretty dang good even considering the no-sack rule and weak secondary. If he keeps it up into fall I might start feeling better especially if the coaches come right out and say he's the #1 guy.
Seems like a long shot he opens the season as the starter. He'll have to come to grips with that. And so will the fan base. If Embree was still here, perhaps he picks Dillon despite not being ready because he talked him up so much last year.
I'm good with Wood or Hirsch. Their numbers are just better so far. But Dillon has the bigger upside with his arm strength.
Silver linings, glass half full, drowning in Kool-aide...blah blah blah - the one thing I will say about yesterday's scrimmage is that AT LEAST compared to years past, when our D sucked just as bad as this one and the O couldn't get 200 yards on them, we now have SOMETHING positive to look at. Be Wood, Hirsch, whomever...
Wood looks good in the spring because hitting on the QB is not allowed and he doesn't have to face complex defensive game planning against him. I don't trust Connor Wood in pressure situations.
I mean, that doesn't sound like supporting Connor Wood, but I could be wrong.
BB has always pushed for Hirsh. Either is a close friend or relative......and not saying anything ERng with that.
I am taking a wait and see approach. Personally, I bet Wood starts. Size, feet, and coaching might get his confidence back. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY here did well under pressure last year. But this is a different staff, different (simpler) scheme, and.....we will see. A staff that make a scheme around present skills will put a vastly more competent looking team out there.
I will support Wood if he is named the starter. That doesn't mean I trust him in pressure situations.
And what has Hirshman done to warrant trust in a pressure situation(s)?
You don't support backups on the team? That's kinda messed up.
I support even players on the scout team.
only if we have protection.
That ruins the fun...
I have never been impressed by Hirshman. Even in Spring he seemed a bit lost. Maybe he found pocket presence. At this point, without the emergence of Dillon, I am pretty worried about the QB situation. I am even more worried about the defense...
Everyone knows bigbang has a crush on Hirschman, as I pointed out years ago in some post or another. Best to ignore him on this topic as well as every other topic related to anything ever.
Cut him some slack... clearly, BB2 is an athletic supporter.
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