Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Hugegroove, Jan 16, 2013.
Schools spend insane bucks on football players. And about ten cents on XC.
Wouldn't a lot of that money be "on paper?" The bulk of it, I'd imagine, is for tuition. Or does the AD have to reimburse the school for the tuition?
It looks like the way the calculate it is total expenditures divided my number of athletes. $50,000,000 spent / 500 athletes = $100,000 per athlete.
It looks to me like they are taking the athletic department budget, and dividing by the total number of scholarship athletes, to arrive at a "per athlete" figure.
Yeah, something along those lines anyway. Seems like a simplistic way of looking at it to me.
Also, "academic spending" can be a confusing category, though the study uses federal data universities must report under a precise methodology. While it includes athletic scholarships as athletic spending, for example, institutional financial aid available to other students doesn't count as "academic spending."
I get the tuition, books, uniforms, meals, travel, and covering insurance costs for injuries. But it still seems like a high price to pay. I doubt there is an accurate published breakdown of what those costs truly are.
I believe that not only does the school have the reimburse the school for tuition they pay out of state rates for all scholarship athletes if they are out of state or not.
I would double check with a recruiting guru.
This is correct. The AD could save about 25% on scholarship cost if they could get the reimbursement rate down to the "True cost of education".
CUAD pays out of state on all athletes...total bull**** move by the school
Even the in-state kids that they recruit? Seems double dumb to do that.
yep...school just wants the cash from the AD...i would think that the school could waive the tuition fees for all athletes so that the AD would have more $$ to spend on other sports
Yes. When we did our OV we got an estimate of about 400k+ for athletes expenses. Crazy part is they do find ways to recover. Like for insurance. The athletes are required to carry primary insurance and CUstomers is secondary. If the kids don't have, they have to pay. Don't get this one.
I really want to agree with this line of thinking.
But then there is the reality that USC and Stanford, both private schools, have tuition near $28,000.
The out of state price at CU is around $20,000.
IMO, it would be equally BS to reflect instate tuition for the instate kids because that rate is heavily subsidized. The CUAD doesn't need more protesters from Colorado's hypersensative taxpayer base.
Even CU's OOS fee might be subsidized to some extent by Uncle Bruce's federal grant money.
Going by the methodology used I would guess that the CU Health Sciences spends over $250,000 per student. If you take the entire budget of Health Sciences including salaries of all employees, marketing, utilities and the huge expenditures made recently for facilities you might even get over $1,000,000 a student.
The piece is a hack job that does not in any way reflect the actual financial expenditures of athletics, the revenues, or the role of athletics.
Here is another thing to consider. Getting a degree in Liberal Arts is around 20K per year for out of state. For business/engineering/architecture it is around 36K per year. So, if that comes out of the AD, why would the AD want a kid to go for one of the more expensive degree programs? Another thing, do you think the SEC schools play by the same rules? I mean, does the AD get hit for the scholly costs like, say, a CU or Stanford does?
If the calculation is total AD budget divided by scholarship athletes, umm... what about non-scholarship athletes? A lot of the non-revenue sports have several non-scholarship athletes on them, and the AD has to buy their uniforms, pay their travel, pay the trainer to tape their ankles, etc - just because they aren't covering any tuition costs doesn't mean that there are no costs at all.
I just have trouble with an article that right off the top has a major methodological error in the reporting, especially when that error helps to "make their point."
and this is different from 90% of media reporting how?
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