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Congress Manchin Tubberville bill seeks to limit portal and regulate NIL.

I'd need to read the bill.

I'm curious on what, if any, exceptions were built into this. Family circumstances? Coaching changes? NCAA penalties against current school?

I'm fine with agents & collectives needing to register. That needs to be regulated.

But I'm very uncomfortable with the restraint on player rights. It's basically forcing them to enter an agreement that leaves them with no option besides staying with an organization even if it's a bad situation. An agreement they may not have been old enough to legally sign without a parent or guardian co-signing.
 
Buffnik said:
I'd need to read the bill.

I'm curious on what, if any, exceptions were built into this. Family circumstances? Coaching changes? NCAA penalties against current school?

I'm fine with agents & collectives needing to register. That needs to be regulated.

But I'm very uncomfortable with the restraint on player rights. It's basically forcing them to enter an agreement that leaves them with no option besides staying with an organization even if it's a bad situation. An agreement they may not have been old enough to legally sign without a parent or guardian co-signing.
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I also need to read the summaries of rulings that got us to the current transfer rules to put this in any meaningful context
 
Phew, now that Congress is involved everything should be alright. If anybody knows about running a business, it's these folks who voted us 32 Trillion dollars in the hole. I will rest easy tonight.
 
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Buffnik said:
I'd need to read the bill.

I'm curious on what, if any, exceptions were built into this. Family circumstances? Coaching changes? NCAA penalties against current school?

I'm fine with agents & collectives needing to register. That needs to be regulated.

But I'm very uncomfortable with the restraint on player rights. It's basically forcing them to enter an agreement that leaves them with no option besides staying with an organization even if it's a bad situation. An agreement they may not have been old enough to legally sign without a parent or guardian co-signing.
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Agree,

I'm not a big fan of the wide open world of college football right now but if we are going to argue that it is about the student-athletes then there must be allowances for the good of the student athletes.

hokiehead said:
I also need to read the summaries of rulings that got us to the current transfer rules to put this in any meaningful context
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As long as the court rulings aren't based on constitutional principles and are instead interpretation of legislation then congress can pass whatever it wants to. This is what allows them to give anti-trust exemptions to certain pro sports leagues and to certain defense related industries.

I have been surprised over recent years that congress hasn't initiated stronger federal oversight over college sports under the authority of Title IX and using federal funding including guaranteed student loans and federal research dollars as the enforcement hammer.

This would have been initiated by the issues of safety and fairness within college programs and on campuses presented by the sexual abuse, hazing, and failures to provide equal support and opportunities to federally protected diverse students.

The absolute failure of the NCAA to act as an enforcement body would lend itself to the government stepping in first to enforce existing law then increasing regulation.
 
Buffnik said:
I'd need to read the bill.

I'm curious on what, if any, exceptions were built into this. Family circumstances? Coaching changes? NCAA penalties against current school?

I'm fine with agents & collectives needing to register. That needs to be regulated.

But I'm very uncomfortable with the restraint on player rights. It's basically forcing them to enter an agreement that leaves them with no option besides staying with an organization even if it's a bad situation. An agreement they may not have been old enough to legally sign without a parent or guardian co-signing.
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Really? Just knowing the two sponsors is enough for me to write it off.

And lol at "bipartisan."
 
Cue liver coming in to tell us he was right about congressional intervention in 3-2-1…
 
If they do this I hope we see the NBA expand the G-League, and/or see more U.S. high schoolers head overseas to develop. **** this old crappy system.
 
If they're getting a discussion going (which is manchin's style), it's a starting point, not a final, or even first draft of something that could actually become law.

Manchin, on the rare times he actually adds value, is the guy that brings ideas to the table.

"Hey, I know this will need work by you guys that actually know how to read and write, but we should start discussing it because a lot of you have constituents that care about it."

"Okay Joe, let's see what you got.

...

Well, to start, you misspelled collage,"

"That was Tommy, I told him it was wrong!"

"Okay, setting that aside, we'll start to think about this, because you're right, we're starting to hear from a few donors."
 
Nothing that can get ****ed up can’t get ****ed up even more after congressional intervention.
 
there will have to be some collective bargaining done. a simple ban on player movement sponsored by a couple of known crackers is not going to survive court attention.

the fix for the entire mess needs someone negotiating on behalf of the players (a union), some body authorized to speak for all the power schools (like the ncaa allegedly was supposed to do), some regulatory oversight, and then the sport could conceivably pull the power away from the networks eventually.

so much could get fixed this way...

set player compensation and benefits. agree to "free agency" terms and conditions. re-do the current p2 v. everyone else conference mess into rational geographic divisions that respect rivalries. and so forth.
 
Liver said:
there will have to be some collective bargaining done. a simple ban on player movement sponsored by a couple of known crackers is not going to survive court attention.

the fix for the entire mess needs someone negotiating on behalf of the players (a union), some body authorized to speak for all the power schools (like the ncaa allegedly was supposed to do), some regulatory oversight, and then the sport could conceivably pull the power away from the networks eventually.

so much could get fixed this way...

set player compensation and benefits. agree to "free agency" terms and conditions. re-do the current p2 v. everyone else conference mess into rational geographic divisions that respect rivalries. and so forth.
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You need some sort of anti-trust exemption from congress before the courts could sign off, but it could work.
 
Interesting timing for this. At the exact moment that a huge part of what these kids committed to is being torn out from under their feet (conference realignment) you decide you are going to place a bunch of demands on athlete movement? Should go well...
 
skibum said:
You need some sort of anti-trust exemption from congress before the courts could sign off, but it could work.
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correct. that is one of the levers the government can use-- trade an exemption for making this whole thing work more like it is supposed to work.

basically, we won't bring the whole house down as anticompetitive and monopolistic and predatory if everyone agrees to some common sense guardrails.

players have a seat at the table via a union. a governing body with teeth reigns the chaos in. and fans/voters get to see something more closely resembling the things that were good about college football before the networks made it all about eyeballs.
 
Two old white men writing a bill that largely affects young black men really seems reasonable.

Seriously, this stuff pisses me off. Any bills revolving NIL that don't help out the athlete are ridiculous. There aren't any bills regarding non athlete students at college making money off tik tok or instagram. Why are athletes any different? America (as ****ty as it is) prides itself on being a capitalist free market society. I just truly hate the hypocritical nature of our government (read: Republicans)
 
Bread said:
Two old white men writing a bill that largely affects young black men really seems reasonable.

Seriously, this stuff pisses me off. Any bills revolving NIL that don't help out the athlete are ridiculous. There aren't any bills regarding non athlete students at college making money off tik tok or instagram. Why are athletes any different? America (as ****ty as it is) prides itself on being a capitalist free market society. I just truly hate the hypocritical nature of our government (read: Republicans)
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Both parties are full of hypocrites
 
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