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CU fans need a reality check on a coaching change
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Really? So does this coach get fired?
3-8
3-8
6-6
5-7
Thats 17-29, doesn't that bozo need to be canned?
But wait, the next two seasons:
8-5
6-2 and counting.
I'm just sayin' that pissed off fans on a message board perhaps don't have the best judgment about what's best in the long term for a football program.
So as you proceed to bash DBT know that his opinion is as valuable as yours--and none are worth much.
Chilly
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nobody should quit.
let's all dial it down.
dbt has been in a running gun battle with half the board for weeks now. in that gun battle, he alternates between personal attacks and the victim card.
he's a good poster, even still. i hope he stays. i hope everyone stays. except fuskers.
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let's all dial it down.
dbt has been in a running gun battle with half the board for weeks now. in that gun battle, he alternates between personal attacks and the victim card.
he's a good poster, even still. i hope he stays. i hope everyone stays. except fuskers.
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Unleash Hell
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Chilly
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No his numbers are dead nuts on. Now who can name the team?
Arizona.
Chilly
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gleeb gun is empty or rep would be coming your way.
It's Mike Stoops at Arizona. That being said people have pointed at numerous similar coaching situations and said we should wait just like they have. I'm sorry, but that isn't reason to hope for random success after numerous years of failure. Last year it was all about Kansas and Missouri, how they waited and now their programs turned the corner. Really? They're both crappy again and were just riding a wave of success. I don't know anything about Arizona other than it probably comes in somewhere between Oregon State and Washington State in terms of importance in the Pac 10. Hawk getting another year should not have anything to do with Pinkel, Mangino or Stoops.
thanks. My point... CU should not be looking to Arizona for examples.
Chilly
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I agree both coaches should be fired ASAP.
Chilly
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Why not? Arizona might be a good parallel to CU in many ways.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Stoops
now this is a fresh argument. Please expound.
AlferdJasper
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Sad thing is that I REALLY believe Hawkins has been slowly and surely building his bare cupboard into a solid team. I have begun to hope he gets the fifth year to enjoy some success.
(go ahead, throw bricks, I'm ready to duck.)
Because if a new guy comes in and has a great first year, it will be Hawkins' team that does it.
I am in support of a shakeup in the assistant ranks to appease the masses. One more year, I think he gets it, and I think it will be better than this year by far.
(go ahead, throw bricks, I'm ready to duck.)
Because if a new guy comes in and has a great first year, it will be Hawkins' team that does it.
I am in support of a shakeup in the assistant ranks to appease the masses. One more year, I think he gets it, and I think it will be better than this year by far.
MontanaBuff
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I'm goin' with Arizona ... :smile2:
Come on that's not what I meant and you know it. I'm trying to get at that you can't look at other schools who aren't performing up to expectations and say that is what we can expect to happen in our situation. There is no reason to believe that Hawk is randomly going to turn the ship around next year. Keeping him is not a crap shoot, it's just plain crap.
PurifydatA$$
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In what ways? Arizona is a basketball school that made a smart hire, a la North Carolina, but does not have to rely on football to support the athletic dept. We are a football school with no other strong money making sport to fall back on. If only skiing, x-country and ultimate frisbee were big $ sports, we'd be golden :lol:
Chilly
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Arizona is BCS school that has a solid academic reputation and had a very nice run during the 90's. Both teams have since struggled to repeat that same success and went out of house to hire a young up and comer.
win %? championships? CU had more then the 90's.
Chilly
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Football has been around a long time at the UofA, and it has had a few runs at times. Most recently in the 90's.
Over the long hall. CU has won 61% of it's game and UofA 57%. Now lets all argue about a 4% difference.
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How so? From the looks of it Stoops took over when Arizona was pretty down. His first year he went 3-8 and that was an improvement, which tells me he took over a pretty awful team. Here's one that really jumps out at me that Hawk couldn't do:
They went on to soundly defeat the Toledo Rockets
You know what, **** it. Keep hawk another year and then when losing season #5 comes, watching you eat crow and try to justify keeping him around for a 6th year as you go cubs fan "wait til next year" one more time will be priceless.
AlferdJasper
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on some level, deep deep down, can't you just hope that there's a chance Hawkins could find success here?
I do.
I do.
Another reason Arizona is a poor comparison, they have done nothing but get better year after year. Hawk has done nothing but go backwards since year 2. I don't know what Stoops' road record is, but something tells me he won more than two games total in his first 4 years.
yes. And I will listen to it if he goes to a bowl game and gets a top 10 class Until then, I will ruthlessly crush it. :smile2:
I do too. Then again, I can hope for a lot of things. I hope Hawk wins these next 3 games, gets another year and proves me wrong all of next year. Do I think that has a chance of happening? No, not at all.
I always root for the Buffs. If you are rooting for a loss, you need to check your loyalties and consider what it is you support.
I wish I could believe Hawk could turn it around. I don't. If CU won every game on the rest of the schedule, DH would STILL have a win percentage of less than .400, (.387 to be exact). That is pathetic. No BCS team except for CU and possibly pre-GB Northwestern would even entertain keeping the coach in htat situation.
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