aik
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Whoa. Will every thread this week turn into a flame war? Must be the offseason.
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Dave Logan turned UNC down
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Whoa. Will every thread this week turn into a flame war? Must be the offseason.
badfish650
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maybe he is expecting to get the Broncos job?
So because his boys in the media he has worked with for 20 years trot his name out every time the CU job is open, he is a real candidate? Not seeing the logic there.
By the Denver media, not by CU. Big difference.
Rumor in the DP that Logan may head for Cherry Creek.
Are you Dave's mom?
JDBattleMC
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There isn't a huge jump from 1-AA to 1-A. There was a significant difference before scholarship numbers were dropped - but now there has been an evening of the playing field and lower D-1 teams aren't that far removed from 1-AA. Sad to say it, but CU has really fallen. VT, which is a premier program on the national scene lost to a 1-AA team this year. It's not like Barbizon offered Logan this job, a rising 1-AA team offered him a head coaching job, which according to MOST on this board is preposterous.
You're kidding. Right? Creek is a public school. He can't recruit there.
northern colorado is a rising team? go look at their record, I work with guys who played there, they've gotten worse not better.
Not sure why he'd want to go to Creek. He has all the advantages in the world at Mullen. A limitless budget, a staff of assistants larger than most colleges, the ability to legally recruit any player he wants from wherever that player happens to live... At Creek, he'd have to deal with the crap that goes along with being at any public school. And while Creek has far and away more advantages than any *other* public school, it's still a public school.
Yep. The UNC job pays less than some RMAC jobs. They also are struggling big time in the tough Big Sky conference. They have a total of five conference wins over the last five years. It is not a good job.
Safe to say JD is a bit mistaken here.
You are joking right? It is true that occasionally a FCS team (1AA) steps up and beats a BCS level (1A) team and other times the FCS team puts a scare into the BCS team but the jobs are entirely different. There are some schools at the bottom of BCS like the Sun Belt teams or the bottom end of the MAC that are not far above top teams in the FCS like Montana State, Appy State, etc. Those aren't what we are talking about here.
Most FCS teams have a total football budget that would be a drop in the bucket compared to most schools in the AQ conferences. UNC isn't recruiting against schools that fly coaches in with helicopters to impress recruits and use private jets to maximize recruiting efficiency when their coaches are on the road. Most FCS recruits aren't even on the radar of the BCS level schools. FCS coaches normally make less than position coaches at the bigger schools, staff sizes are smaller and support staffs are way smaller. A big difference is in the nature of the job itself. BCS level coaches are responsible for feeding those bigger budgets with significantly higher levels of fundraising and public relations. Coaches at FCS schools have some of these responsibilities as well but on a hugely lower level. They are not the public face of the university, they are not normally the subject of daily newspaper coverage, attention from the nightly newscast, or from the internet geeks like those who hang out here.
Logan at Mullen gets more media attention and frequently larger crowds at games than he would have at UNC. At UNC he would have to give up most of his media work and a lot of his endorsement work. In exchange he would be getting a program that needs to be rebuilt from essentially the ground up. UNC doesn't even have the budget to fully fund their allotment of schollies. Recruiting trips are limited by budget and being a long way from Texas and Cali is difficult, as a result most recuits come from Colorado and surrounding states out of neccessity.
I think had Logan decided a number of years back to aim at a BCS level head coaching job he could have had one by now. To do so would have involved making some sacrifices and being either a position coach at the BCS level or a head coach at the FCS level for a time period first. At this current age that time has passed. Had he taken the UNC job it would have been a terminal job for him. Saying he spent three years there he would be 60, past the age when any quality BCS school is going to offer a job to someone with no prior BCS level head coaching experience. Without that intermediate experience he has and should have no chance. The past history of HS coaches going to BCS level schools is not a good one with guys failing even in situations where the program was already set up to succeed. It is a whole different world.
The media guys in Denver will continue to put Logans name up for every coaching vacancy that comes up because they like him, they like to think that they know enough about sports that they could coach and if one media guy makes it that validates them, and mostly because they are lazy and plugging his name in saves them having to actually research who is a legitimate candidate.
Yeah, and Rogers at A-West. However, things have changed in the good old CHSAA since those days.
By the way, I just read that the previous HC at UNC made $95,000 last year. The guy taking the job came from Acron where he was making about $140,000. I now understand, much more clearly, why Dave Logan turned down the gig.
