Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by sackman, Oct 25, 2015.
You and I have a different definition of quit.
See prior post re. talent vs quitting.
I didn't expect a positive response to that post, but I believe it. They had that game won. In hand. And they quit. I'm still pissed about that game. Giving up two 95 yard drives with the game on the line is unacceptable.
Why in Gods name would a team with the lead late in the game quit? That makes no sense.
I know. It didn't make sense at the time, either.
There is a huge difference between quitting and playing like you expect to lose.
It has rarely happened that this bunch quits. Sacky mentioned one time against Arizona but normally this group fights to the end. Unfortunately they also tend to play like they expect to lose and end up making the mistakes that make that happen be a bad pass, missed tackles, a terrible special teams play, etc. They play hard, they give it everything they have physically and emotionally, sometimes they give it to much. Then they figure out how to lose.
What we need is to put UCLA into a situation where they are the ones who doubt, they are the ones who figure the game is lost.
Did Tini steal Sackman's identity and return to Allbuffs?
Tini would never think a CU team would quit.
I never paid attention to what he said....thanks for the info.
I completely agree with your final sentence.
To the opinion about them quitting, I don't see it that way. I see them as being able to rise to the moment when UA raised its intensity. Semantics, maybe. But winning or losing is a habit and the Buffs just haven't kicked the bad habit yet, let alone developed the good one.
For this same reason, the game against OSU was there for the Beavs if they had the winning habit. But they don't and it was exactly the type of baby step that the Buffs needed... hanging on in the exact type of situation that UA had been able to overcome. This and CSU were both the types of games that go a long way to breaking the habit. Progress. Slow, painful, frustrating progress. But progress.
I actually agree with his last two sentences.
Could you be more specific? He's using periods, but some of that isn't super sentencey.
Yes this is what I wish I had said. Last year I KNEW if it was a close game the Buffs would lose, although to all appearances they were giving maximum effort. This year I was feeling sort of the same, but CSU and OSU games have now disrupted that narrative.
You don't move down and score against AZ to pull within one score, late in the 4th Q, if you quit. You do fail to finish the job if you don't really think you're going to pull it out.
We're arguing semantics here. I see no difference between "quitting" and "stop trying to win".
@MtnBuff has is right. They didn't quit but they did play like they expected to lose.
You are of your rocker
I think a better description would be we played like we had two freshman starting at the inside linebacker position, one in his very first game, and the other with limited time. They didn't quit, and didn't play like they expected to lose. They played like what they were, a little short on overall talent and experience at key positions and ended up in bad positions because that is what young, inexperienced players do when they are in the middle of the game trying to make a play. They overreact instead of holding their positions while the play develops and comes to them. Much like many of the posters on this board that overreact to the outcome of games or the posts of certain individuals and thus overcompensate by being obnoxious and posting stupid crap.
They did not quit at all. They even didn't quit getting worked over by ASU. This team isn't Embree's teams, they keep going. I will see Lindgren QUIT coaching a good game but otherwise I felt like they don't have much give up.
I completely agree, but I saw some pressure against OSU that had not been there. We are weak at our starting corners. Awuzie plays nickel and is by far the best cover guy. Tedric is the best all around defender. Crawley is only serviceable and about the same as Henderson, nothing spectacular, solid. Witherspoon is a liability. I would rather see someone else get the shot, because he has been toasted repeatedly.
I've been telling you fools Elway was terrible for years, he didnt win those games the Browns Quit.
Elway only had to get 1, "95 yard" drive.
When they subbed QBs Arizona really did have CU right where they wanted them.
We didn't quit, we're just not very good. Arizona is bottom tier of the Pac-12, but better than us at nearly every position. They found a weakness they could exploit just in time to win that game.
I've met his dad, he doesn't seem like much of a rocker.
Either that or our defense kind of sucks.
What prior post? Sacky's is the first post of the thread.
New thread was culled from a different thread.
Ahhhh ... thanks. I thought that was only done when part of a thread was sent to the Island.
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